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<SiFuh> Hmm
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<ppetrov^> hmm?
<ocb> hmm
<ocb> how are you today
<ppetrov^> me or SiFuh :p
<Jason123santaOnI> I installed crux on a vm and when I went to update it says that packages where updates failed
<Jason123santaOnI> ppp
<Jason123santaOnI> xfprogs
<Jason123santaOnI> shared-mine-info
<ppetrov^> try to update one, say ppp and see what the error is?
<ocb> pp: the channel, you included :)
<Jason123santaOnI> fatal error pcap.h: no such file or directory
<Jason123santaOnI> When updating ppp
<ppetrov^> ocb, my gf had a nervous breakdown today, i am struggling with protein interaction networks analyses and as a whole it's a long story, but things seem much better now
<ppetrov^> pcap.h
<ppetrov^> do you have libpcap installed?
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<SiFuh> Hmm
<SiFuh> ocb: I am good if you were asking me. :-)
<SiFuh> Trying to figure out how to update bios virmware without windows
<SiFuh> firmware*
<ocb> ppetrov^: we, humans get nervous too much for not important things. i do too get nervous breakdowns from time to time, usually when under pressure..
<ocb> i hope everything will be ok, it will be. important we are healthy, other things are solvable
<ocb> nice to hear you are ok :)
<ppetrov^> ocb, we are looking for a new flat. She is in a wheelchair and we have been negotiating some changes in the new flat so it is easier for her for 10 days. Today we were told that the "experts" of the company decided things would be easier in a certain way that is definitely not easy for her. So she kinda lost it
<ppetrov^> i know that's TMI (too much info), but sometimes it's easier to share with total strangers. Also i am a bit drunk, so what the hell.
* SiFuh high fives ppetrov^
<ppetrov^> thanks SiFuh... actually I am sorry to mention it. Usually people get uncomfortable, etc
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<ocb> don't worry man, it doesn't change things but it helps sharing, i know. i hope you will both get through the hard times and get to better situation
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<ocb> from time to time been eating some forest magic shrooms past year and feeling better, step by step since mental health takes time to recover. i've been fucked up in the head also, but better :)
<ppetrov^> well this channel is not a support group and anyway i am quite new to it. Simply i really had enough today and the you asked "how are you"
<ppetrov^> so... :P
<ocb> stay strong! :)
<ppetrov^> :)
<ppetrov^> thanks
<SiFuh> Support Group :-) Everything happenes in this channel
<ppetrov^> heh
<ppetrov^> for me it has been mostly help with CRUX and mostly by you SiFuh
<SiFuh> Sorry about that, I will try not to help so much in the future :-P
<ppetrov^> heh
<ppetrov^> please do
<ppetrov^> the older I get the more I appreciate when someone is willing to help
<SiFuh> Yeah, life is pretty sad.
<ppetrov^> well, it can be sad it can be fun. Once you realise it can be totally unfair something breaks in you
<SiFuh> I accepted that back in 1988
<ppetrov^> 1988? I was 6 years old then...
<SiFuh> I was 10
<ppetrov^> well, you were pretty mature or much more than me
<ocb> 'Once you realise it can be totally unfair something breaks in you' - not sure. once i realised life is unfair, it broke me yes.. but you are stronger, and you break it back :)
<ppetrov^> heh
<Jason123santaOnI> ppetrov^: this is a new crux install
<ocb> at the end, we are all humans
<SiFuh> I am still not mature ;-)
<ppetrov^> Jason123santaOnI, did you use an updated install dvd? unofficial?
<ppetrov^> SiFuh, I stopped caring whether I was mature or not when I turned 30
<SiFuh> Jason123santaOnI: you need to install the missing dependencies
<Jason123santaOnI> The latest 3.6.1 iso from the torrent
<ppetrov^> you can get Unofficial Updated ISOs
<ppetrov^> here
<SiFuh> fatal error pcap.h: no such file or directory <-- Is as ppetrov^ said. Do you have libpcap installed?
<Jason123santaOnI> I just tried installing it
<ppetrov^> does prt-get sysup pull new deps?
<SiFuh> Jason123santaOnI: what command are you using to install these packges?
<Jason123santaOnI> I am using prt-gey sysup
<ppetrov^> :D:D:D:D
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<Jason123santaOnI> prt-get
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<SiFuh> prt-get depinst <port name>
<SiFuh> I see, so you must already be missing some ports then
<Jason123santaOnI> A new install should be able to update everything
<Jason123santaOnI> But its failing
<ppetrov^> try:
<ppetrov^> prt-get depends ppp
<ppetrov^> see what you have installed
<SiFuh> Try this
<SiFuh> for i in $(prt-get listinst); do prt-get depends "${i}" |grep "\[\ "; done
<SiFuh> Anything missing that you need will be listed
<Jason123santaOnI> Yeah that does work
<Jason123santaOnI> So I can just get the dependencies for the packages
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<ppetrov^> what SiFuh suggests seems much more intelligent and automated
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<SiFuh> grep "\[\ " is looking for dependencies that are not installed. [i] = installed and [ ] = not installed
<Jason123santaOnI> Its just 3 packages
<Jason123santaOnI> I can manually install all the dependencies
<SiFuh> Yeah but use depinst when you do
<SiFuh> So prt-get depinst <port name>
<Jason123santaOnI> Can't I do prt-get depends <port name>
<ppetrov^> sure, but you need to install stuff one by one
<Jason123santaOnI> Yeah its only one things for each of the 3 packages
<SiFuh> depends only lists what is needed. depinst installs the depenedicies automatically
<Jason123santaOnI> When I do prt-get depinst shared-mime-info it says its all ready installed
<SiFuh> Ahh okay
<SiFuh> Do the depinst for the missing dependencies
<Jason123santaOnI> Yeah I can
<SiFuh> Some dependencies require other deps
<Jason123santaOnI> I think depinst works for packages that are not installed yet
<SiFuh> Correct
<Jason123santaOnI> Why is there not a new iso?
<SiFuh> Also have prt-get deptree --all <port name> and it will provide a nice tree you can browser through to see what calls what and what needs what
<SiFuh> Jason123santaOnI: there is but it is not an official release
<SiFuh> Jaegerprovides it
<SiFuh> jaeger: provides it*
<Jason123santaOnI> Yeah I know the unofficial isos
<Jason123santaOnI> But officially
<SiFuh> Packages get updated daily (Not associated with CRUX) and making a distro for each package update is just insanity ;-)
<SiFuh> Jaegers unoffical iso is fine
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<Jason123santaOnI> Yeah the next time I install crux I will try the unofficial iso
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<SiFuh> Jason123santaOnI: there isn't much difference in the core environment. The updates are usually ports that are in opt/contrib/xorg/ and so on
<Jason123santaOnI> I see yeah so next time I do a crux install
<Jason123santaOnI> Right now everything is fully updated
<Jason123santaOnI> Nevermind its not because I did a port -u
<SiFuh> q
<SiFuh> Whoops
<SiFuh> I have a cron job that updates the ports with ports -u set at specific intervals. My ports directory is on external disk so I have a script to test if it is mounted first before running ports -u
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.6]: grafana: 8.1.2 -> 8.1.3
<jaeger> For what it's worth, I build both the release and the updated ISOs
<jaeger> And they're built the same way
<SiFuh> It's worth a lot
<Jason123santaOnI> So I know now that I have to run a ports -u then update so it can detect the new updated
<jaeger> yeah, 'ports -u' will always sync your local ports tree with upstream
<ppetrov^> good night guys
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<dlcusa> SiFuh, I use https://www.freedos.org/ for firmware updates--in my experience most if not all need not the GUI.
<dlcusa> Oh, he left.
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<SiFuh> Thanks dlcusa. I was thinking about that. I instead used Hiren’s BootCD PE x64 (v1.0.2)
<SiFuh> But yeah, I wasn't sure if it needed GUI but it turns out I did not need GUI
<SiFuh> Hoping that fixes my system complete lock ups. Tried everything, from disconeccting everything, no launching programs, replacing ram, changing from NVME to M.2 and no matter what happens, it still suicides between 2 and 3 days and sometimes earlier
<dlcusa> Sometimes I think only sysadmins can appreciate the trials of sysadmins.
<dlcusa> The rest of the times I am certain that is so.
<dlcusa> In theory netadmins could, but...
<SiFuh> Hehe
<SiFuh> I was a netadmin for years
<frinnst_> new firefox btw
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