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<rainthree> what's the proper way to avoid Keene style constructors? is there a way better than way 1 : https://paste.rs/xUjRq ?   https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp?around=1694400609#1694400609 "beach Many of us have come to the conclusion that it is not such a great idea to define specific constructors, even though Keene's book recommends them."
<bike> just use make-instance?
<paulapatience> rainthree: I think you can add customize to initialize-instance without your make-inst
<bike> yeah. and you can put &key (customize t) in your initialize-instance method lambda list.
<rainthree> that sounds right
<rainthree> thanks
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<rainthree> bike: actually I would like customize to be nil by default in initialize-instance :after
<rainthree> *:around
<paulapatience> You can do that
<rainthree> yeah
<rainthree> because only when make-instance is called by Clobber when it reads the transaction-log I want it to populate the data structures
<rainthree> so Clobber will simply supply that parameter with the value t
<bike> i have no idea what any of this does. i was just going off of your (customize t) in your function.
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<rainthree> still, that customize parameter is hardcoded in initialize-instance :around, I will try some ways to avoid that
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<rainthree> because maybe some class uses that as an initarg and I would override it by accident (?)
<paulapatience> Maybe a dynamic variable *clobber-populate*?
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<rainthree> hm
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<bike> you could use an internal symbol rather than a keyword.
<rainthree> bike: how? can it appear after &key?
<bike> something like (&key ((customize customize)))
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<bike> and then you can do (make-instance ... 'customize 14)
<rainthree> nice I didn't know this trick
<rainthree> I have come up with another idea, brb
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<rainthree> I think bike's way is the easiest
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<_death> this kind of issue is unlikely in practice, and not many would pick the side of the fence that includes guaranteed obscurity of non-keyword initargs to somewhat lower the already low chances
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<rainthree> _death: ok
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<pl> Haven't made web services in CL in a while, what library would you recommend for setting up something reasonable that needs details of HTTP headers for example, preferably layered (tl;dr I was thinking of something that would a) handle routing b) provide basic "wrap function call in layer that translates certain headers into dynamic variables")
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<dlowe> I'm still using hunchentoot
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<pl> was thinking generally of something that would go on top of hunchentoot
<pl> I mean, I can write one myself
<pl> but I kinda want to... not deal with that?
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<mwnaylor> I just installed sbcl, but get this error when I try to start it: Can't find sbcl.core
<mwnaylor> Installation on Slackware 15, via a slackbuild.
<skin> pl: shirakumo.github.io/radiance/
<mwnaylor> Do I need to tweak some environment variables to get it to work? /usr/lib64/sbcl/sbcl.core was installed.
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<bike> mwnaylor: you shouldn't need to. sounds like something is wrong with the slackbuild. you can manually specify a core: sbcl --core /usr/lib64/sbcl/sbcl.core
<skin> I don't know mwnaylor. I've had that error before but I've never been on Slack