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<beach> I guess I don't know the best way of writing a compiler macro for a function that takes keyword arguments, and that expands into a call to a function with only required parameters.
<beach> It looks messy to make sure evaluation order is preserved.
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<pjb> beach: indeed, given that (let ((i 0)) (foo :A (incf i) :b (incf i))) should give different parameters than (let ((i 0)) (foo :B (incf i) :a (incf i))).
<jackdaniel> nmNorvig performance advice still up to snuff: don't use keyword arguments in your functions
<jackdaniel> Norvig's *
<jackdaniel> some appreciation to rms stubborn criticism of keywords in lambda lists zeems to be also due
<jackdaniel> seems*
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<pjb> beach: I'd do something like: https://termbin.com/ebjg
<pjb> beach: expansions: https://termbin.com/4bxq
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<beach> Yes, I see. Thanks.
<beach> It is hard to avoid functions with keyword arguments if they are specified that way in the standard.
<beach> Also, with call-site optimization, this may no longer be a problem. Though writing the call-site optimizer will be harder than writing a particular compiler macro.
<pjb> Why? It could just be a hook similar to compiler-macros. The problem with compiler-macros is that the implementation can only use them for functions in CL, not for user functions.
<pjb> And call-site-optimizer-macros would have access to implementation specific static analysis tools, like expected types of expression, etc.
<beach> Actually, I take that back. The call-site optimizer will have the call site to work on, whereas the compiler macro must handle all call sites.
<pjb> note: you have to consider binding the keyword argument indicators in the foo&p&p entry points.
<pjb> Also, the default initforms.
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<phoe> Shinmera: is there a way to disable core compression from within Deploy? or do I need to remove :SB-CORE-COMPRESSION from features and then make?
<phoe> or maybe just (let ((*features* (remove :sb-core-compression *features*))) (asdf:make ...))
<Shinmera> Set the *compression-factor* to NIL, I guess.
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<phoe> this still tries to dump the library beforehand, which fails on one particular machine because it has no libzstd
<phoe> (or does it? reading the source suggests it does)
* phoe tries
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