#commonlisp on 2022-09-22 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-07-28 16:55 jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/>

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00:08 <_death> and looking at that old conversation, it was pretty similar to the one we just had :)

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00:47 <_death> mathrick: spent a few minutes before sleep to do this https://gist.github.com/death/b793fd31c212f9a0c55e573b86884bfc

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00:53 <_death> if COMPILE is too much, you could of course switch to a more limited interpreter/compiler

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13:52 <contrapunctus> Wasn't Hans Hübner in this channel at some point? I was going through the `bknr-datastore` repository and noticed that the documentation depends on a `pybook.py`, which is neither present in the repository, nor can I find anything relevant to it anywhere, either.

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13:54 <pjb> contrapunctus: pip install pybook # perhaps, or something like that?

13:55 <pjb> That said, things in python bitrot fast, with the new versions of python and its libraries…

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14:44 <Duuqnd> Is there a CL library for using the Matrix protocol or should I just make my own?

14:48 <Gnuxie> there was

14:48 <contrapunctus> Duuqnd: https://github.com/Gnuxie/cl-matrix

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14:49 <Duuqnd> That looks good, thanks!

14:49 <contrapunctus> Gnuxie: was?

14:49 <contrapunctus> pjb: thanks, never thought of that.

14:50 <contrapunctus> pjb: and as you say, it seems to be broken.

14:50 <Gnuxie> well it'll still work but it's not been updated since 0.4 of the spec

14:50 <contrapunctus> Right. Better to work on https://github.com/atlas-engineer/cl-xmpp ;)

14:51 <Gnuxie> it also needs license change bc meh those are stupid licenses

14:51 <contrapunctus> Gnuxie: CSL? :D

14:53 <Duuqnd> As long as it can read and send messages I'm good

14:53 <aeth> just use #2A()

14:53 <aeth> wait, wrong matrix

14:53 <contrapunctus> ,shoot aeth

14:54 <Duuqnd> It being called Matrix certainly didn't help when I first searched for a library like this

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14:58 <Gnuxie> also if you do write another one, just try use someone's open api generator library or make one instead

14:59 <Duuqnd> I mainly need it for a quick hack, so I probably wouldn't even publish it

15:00 <ober> is there more than one open api gen for cl?

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16:30 <scymtym> Gnuxie: i started adding matrix support to my multi-protocol CLIM chat client using https://github.com/K1D77A/lunamech-matrix-api/ . do you recommend switching to https://github.com/Gnuxie/cl-matrix ?

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16:39 <Gnuxie> nope, i don't spend any time maintaining cl-matrix

16:41 <scymtym> ok, thank you

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17:26 <mathrick> _death: interesting, thanks!

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17:28 <mathrick> _death: does your OUT have any documentation, or is it just a case of "use the source, Luke"?

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17:45 <Josh_2> scymtym: the lunamech one is mine

17:45 <Josh_2> I have been using it in my bot for idk how long now

17:45 <scymtym> Josh_2: i see. it has been working well so far

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17:46 <Josh_2> Duuqnd: https://github.com/K1D77A/lunamech-matrix-api/

17:46 <Josh_2> scymtym: I'm glad :)

17:46 <Josh_2> is your repo for your client around?

17:47 <Josh_2> I do actually have a library that wraps the Olm C library that is used for encryption in matrix

17:47 <Josh_2> but I've never used it. I spent ages writing the wrapper and then never used it :shrug:

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17:49 <scymtym> Josh_2: not yet public but here is an old-ish screenshot: https://techfak.de/~jmoringe/clim.chat-8.png

17:49 <scymtym> (that's not the matrix backend, obviously)

17:49 <Josh_2> Damn thats really cool

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17:49 <scymtym> thanks

17:50 <Josh_2> Is there any particular reason its not public?

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17:50 <scymtym> i have to clean up some stuff and publish the dependencies first. but i keep adding features instead

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17:52 <Josh_2> I see

17:52 <Josh_2> Seems like a really nice clim project

17:52 <Josh_2> https://github.com/K1D77A/cl-megolm This is the bindings over Olm, Matrix isn't so usable without encryption :(

17:52 <lagash> I wouldn't want to use Matrix without encryption...

17:52 <Josh_2> But I know zilch about maths, so there is no chance I would be able to implement the Olm algorithm in Lisp

17:53 <Josh_2> lagash: exactly :L

17:53 <Josh_2> Fortunately it doesn't matter for a bot

17:53 <lagash> Josh_2: I'll stick to XMPP + OMEMO thank you :)

17:54 <_death> mathrick: the latter

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19:59 <jeosol> Good morning all!

20:03 <Josh_2> Morning jeosol

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20:16 <jeosol> Josh_2: how are things over there in SA?

20:17 <jeosol> Josh_2: what are you working on these days?

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20:18 <Josh_2> I am back in the UK now

20:18 <Josh_2> Just in time for autumn :(

20:18 <jeosol> nice!!! where do you reside mostly?

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20:21 <Josh_2> The UK

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20:41 <Josh_2> How is your codin' coming along jeosol ?

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21:35 <jeosol> Josh_2: It's coming great. Thanks for asking. It's been a bit painful lately, as I run into phantom errors about missing component.

21:36 <jeosol> Josh_2: Things work on my local machine (as always) but I try it on docker, it works mostly, but I have been getting one phantom error - and the docker run fails

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