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Bike: huh! New development. I was looking at the SBCL manual to see if it would help me make sense of of the LDB backtrace, and it mentioned looking at all threads, which I did, and there was a surprising number of them. So I went and disabled loading Verbose, which spawns background threads, and sure enough, the crash is gone
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mathrick >
I still have no idea why it somehow persists between runs, but at least that's a clue
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the test code that's crashing isn't even using Verbose for anything, so merely loading it is enough to mess with things
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Bike >
oh boy, maybe it's some horrid concurrency problem
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Josh_2 >
I am not looking forward to mapping my lisp system to postgres
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ecraven >
elephant?
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Josh_2 >
Does elephant even work?
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ecraven >
no idea ;) it used to work many years ago when I last tried it
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Josh_2 >
Last commit on github was in 2018
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Josh_2 >
I found a bug in BKNR so now I dont want to use that
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Manardb works very well
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Josh_2 >
I always get a very uneasy feeling using BKNR
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ober >
full clos support, and it's fast
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ober >
20k inserts/sec on sbcl. plus 7 concurrent threads all writing to it.
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Josh_2 >
Well thats faster than Hunchentoot can respond to requests
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Josh_2 >
Ober: do you use Manardb in any production code?
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ober >
yeah. for parsing cloudtrail logs and up to like 2tb of stored data.
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ober >
and that's compressed.
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Josh_2 >
Are there docs online?
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ober >
but I rotate the directories, so I never delete.
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it's fairly well documented as well.
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I see you have multiple dbs, how does manardb compare to postgres?
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manardb is fast, and it's all mop/clos
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ober >
I can get 20k on a single thread to manard, most I get to postgresql slightly tuned is a fraction of that. leveldb/lmdb might be better comparisons
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metis code is poo, but manardb has been solid for me.
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you can open manardb multiuple times too. so one process writes to it with multiple concurrent threads, and then a cli can query it directly with no major slowdowns.
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once I have my mito conversion done, I can compare real rdbms to it.
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I might just go with both, start with Manardb but keep it generic so that I can easily change to Postgres
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I need to consider that at some point we will want to access the DB from another service
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you using mito? or postmodern?
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I will use Postmodern
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Josh_2 >
I do not want to use an ORM
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(thnappy:compress-string "1") works, but 10000000 -> thnappy:buffer-too-small
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What is this library?
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Josh_2 >
Good snappy compression huh
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ober >
(flexi-streams:octets-to-string (salza2:compress-data (flexi-streams:string-to-octets "hello hello hello hello") 'salza2:zlib-compressor)) ;; it is
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Ober: That string compressor turns my 128 string into 137
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Is that McCarthy's Elephant?
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so progress! only using it on very large structures
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is cl-store the best option to serialize structures/hashes, etc?
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I think what's more common is to serialize into plists
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aeth >
as .sxp (more commonly .sexp, but that fails the Scunthorpe problem and will probably get filtered)
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aeth >
maybe not the
*best* option, though
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also requires a readable representation for everything involved
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(structs have that, hash tables would need an extra step)
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oh serialize to a string for storage in a db.
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