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<Average_Joe> Hi all ... I'm new to yocto project and I'm trying to build my distro for a RISC-V
<Average_Joe> I've finished an image with 'MACHINE="qemuriscv32"'
<Average_Joe> the image is successfully created in tmp/deploy/images/qemuriscv32
<Average_Joe> but, when I'm inspecting the instructions they don't look like RISC-V instructions ...
<Average_Joe> am I missing something ?
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<mcfrisk> a layer with an empty __init__.py in meta-layer/lib/oeqa/runtime/cases broke all of parselogs.py open_text() resource file loading, only that path got searched. took way too long to find that out...
<Average_Joe> oh, ... ignore my previous remark ... endianness got me (again)
<landgraf> Average_Joe: been there, done that :(
<Average_Joe> :-)
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<Guest43> hello. the board i use has both an A core and a M7 one. i want to add a .bin file containing the firmware for the M core to bootfs but none of the thing i tried worked. what is the common way to do this?
<Guest43> it's been weeks already that i search the internet without finding a valid answer
<rburton> just make a recipe that ships that file
<Guest43> well i tried that first
<Guest43> but it doesn't appear in the filesystem uboot has access to
<rburton> put it in that filesystem then. this is all something you're constructing...
<Guest43> how can i put that in the uboot filesystem?
<Guest43> i tried adding it to IMAGE_BOOT_FILES too, but it doesn't work either
<rburton> what file system is uboot mounting, and how are you creating it?
<Guest43> well i don't know actually
<rburton> that's a good thing to understand then
<Guest43> seems like it's done in what torizon provide
<rburton> i'd be asking them for support then
<Guest43> will do
<Guest43> thanks for the advices
<rburton> fwiw meta-arm has a BSP which writes a big blob of flash that contains uboot and all the firmware pieces
<Guest43> ohhh lemme check that
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<LetoThe2nd> multiconfig FTW here :-)
<rburton> Guest43: its corstone1000, it currently abuses a wic file write a flash blob with various pieces at explicit offsets so its easy to tell uboot where to read from.
<Guest43> so if i find the relevant .wks file for my build i could amend it to get that file in bootfs?
<rburton> well no i doubt it
<rburton> you'd need to change your uboot to have the same behaviour
<Guest43> hum that makes sense i guess
<rburton> this is deeply hardware specific
<Guest43> writing to toradex now
<rburton> _how_ does the hardware boot, _how_ is the bootloader configured, etc
<Guest43> certainly they'll have the right pointers
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<mason> Hi all! Has IMAGE_INSTALL_remove been deprecated? Got an error ending with "contains an operation using the old override syntax. Please convert this layer/metadata before attempting to use with a newer bitbake.
<rburton> yes
<mason> thank you
<rburton> the override operator is : not _
<mason> Thank you. Will give that a try.
<rburton> there's a tool in scripts to migrate syntax if you've just upgraded
<alperak> mason If your layer is using the old override syntax, you can change it to the new override syntax with this script -> https://git.yoctoproject.org/poky/plain/scripts/contrib/convert-overrides.py
<mason> alperak: Thank you as well!
<alperak> np
<mason> Hanging my cluelessness out there, this is the first time we've tried removing something this way, so I suspect we're using the current syntax, but what I just added is obsolete.
<LetoThe2nd> mason: for the record: its always more sensible to not add something undesired in the first place than to remove it again later.
<mason> LetoThe2nd: Sure. In this case, I want to remove nfs-utils, which we're not explicitly requesting that I can see.
<LetoThe2nd> mason: then the correct way is to find out what adds it :-)
<mason> That's certainly fair.
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<rburton> khem: eg meta-linux-mainline for dunfell has 4.14 though 6.6 (https://github.com/betafive/meta-linux-mainline/tree/dunfell/recipes-kernel/linux)
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<JPEW> RP: jpew/hashserver-gc in poky-contrib
<paulg> rburton, I was looking at your 64k patch and was wondering if you checked... when you build and boot a 64k page system, login and run "free" immediately after boot, does it have a considerably larger footprint than a default 4k build?
<paulg> I'm sure it would have 20y ago but everything is so bloated now, that I'm guessing the level of fragmentation that 4k pages delivers is just needless.
<rburton> i've not checked myself but my understanding is there's a larger footprint but its not _considerable_
<rburton> and obviously clever allocators batch allocations etc etc
<rburton> the performance win is quite notable
<paulg> I dont doubt it one bit.
<rburton> note that the apple m1 is 16kb pages only
<paulg> at the risk of stating the obvious, 16 is still 4x better than the current default.
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<rburton> vmeson: https://github.com/ninja-build/ninja/pull/2260 iiiinteresting
<vmeson> rburton: yep: - I'm already subscribed not that I remembered that! cargo and some of the other build tools support the job server design too.
<vmeson> If things outside of work and the $dayjob admin overhad would settle down, I'd love to test the job server patch.
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<simone> Hi, are there any plans from yocto for fosdem?
<vvn> can you share sstate-cache between multiple oe/yocto versions?
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<khem> vvn: yes
<khem> I keep one sstate folder across multiple machines and also releases
<khem> so far have worked fine,
<vvn> is there a case where I shouldn't share sstate between machines/releases?
<vvn> (e.g. minimal yocto version)
<khem> maybe where the compression format changed etc.
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<LetoThe2nd> simone: at FOSDEM usually the OpenEmbedded side takes precedence. We (as OE) are sharing a table with AGL, plus some presentations are related to the topic area.
<LetoThe2nd> simone: and last but not least on Monday after FOSDEM, there is an OE Workshop
<LetoThe2nd> simone: (which YP is sponsoring, BTW): https://pretix.eu/OpenEmbedded/OEW24/
<simone> Ok, will then at least look for AGL:)
<LetoThe2nd> simone: no love for OE? :-(
<simone> Thats not it, "at least" is key here ;)
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<rburton> vvn: you can always share
<rburton> vvn: the autobuilder builds dunfell through to master and has a single sstate
<vvn> perfect thank you
<yudjinn> hello, this might not be the best place to ask, but I'm trying to add ntfs support to my build; specifically, r/w. I added the ntfs-3g driver, and on-target I can `mount -t ntfs3 /a /b`, but I cant get it to automatically use ntfs3. I added a udev rule to set the FS_ID to `ntfs3` if it was `ntfs` which seems to work (`udevadm info /a` shows "ntfs3"), but still having issues; thoughts?
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<vvn> rburton: the autobuilder uses different branches?
<rburton> vvn: one sstate directory
<vvn> yep but I meant to build dunfell and next versions, are they per-branch versions as usual?
<rburton> not sure what you mean. when it builds dunfell it checks out dunfell.
<vvn> ok
<vmeson> vvn: one GIANT sstate directory! ;-) The cache is hashed so there are no collisions b/w dunfell, kirkstone, etc or if nothing has changed you can nust re-use the sstate object.
<vmeson> *just re-use
<vvn> you just need to make sure uninative is enabled in your distro, right?
<rburton> no
<rburton> that just means you can reuse native between different hosts
<vvn> I understood this was recommended for sstate sharing
<rburton> if you don't use uninative (uni = one, one-native) then native recipes need to be rebuilt
<rburton> it improves sharing, but doesn't break sstate
<vvn> ok
<rburton> https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/sstate/ <-- the autobuilder's one huge sstate. notice the host-distro folders for the native sstate.
<vvn> ha yep
<rburton> and "universal-*" is the distro name for uninative
<vvn> and one can use this sstate as a mirror to download pre-built binaries instead of re-building locally
<rburton> use the CDN otherwise you'll be rate-limited quickly and be wondering why you're downloading at 10kb/s
<vvn> do you guys ever use `. oe-init-build-env .` (i.e. using `.` as the BDIR)? :-)
<vmeson> vvn: sure, at times but only if I've previously created the '.' directory using the oe-init-build-env script. As long as bitbake finds what it needs you should be fine. Why do you ask.
<cambrian_invader> is it possible to get bitbake to ignore dependency issues long enough to print out the environment via -e?
<cambrian_invader> I'm trying to debug a strange error with my kernel (Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['my-kernel', "${@oe.utils.conditional('KERNEL_IMAGETYPE',"])
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<vvn> vmeson: because in order to share a build system, it is convenient to provide a slightly biased repository layout containing a versioned conf/ directory with the site.conf and multiconfig files, alongside our local meta-* directories and submodules
<vvn> (I see a build directory almost as a unlisted layer)
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<vvn> (also it's simpler to have paths relatives to ${TOPDIR} subdirectories rather than looking into parent directories)
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<rburton> vvn: if you want to provide local.conf then use templates like poky itself does, don't play games using . as build dir
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