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<marcelleismann> Good evening :-)
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<ifreund> welcome :)
<Guest69> hi
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<Guest1031> Hello
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<szgy> @leon-p: thanks for the answer. Yeah, probably leaving the event loop to antares makes a lot of sense, more so if you leave some way of 'hooking' up to it.
<szgy> dbus is smth I always wanted to leverage but it always seemed kinda intricate/opaque IMO. Like, figuring out with the cli how to send a message to some process and what can you actually send always seemed hard...
<ifreund> I'll probably play with varlink for window manager IPC needs
<ifreund> dbus has a ton of accidental complexity
<Guest27> Hello! Is there a way to have borders with CSD?
<ifreund> no, borders are server side decoration and the opposite of CSD
<Guest27> Oh, I see, in that case is there a way to, say, set all floating windows to use CSDs instead?
<ifreund> not really currently, see the rules section of the riverctl man page for your options for configuring ssd/csd whatnot
<ifreund> window managers will be given the ability to do that sort of thing in the future with the WIP river-window-management-v1 protocol
<Guest27> Awesome, thanks, I will wait for that then :)
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<szgy> ifreund: didn't know about varlink! checking it outt
<leon-p> yeah DBus design isn't great :/ I also wasn't planning on using it as IPC, just to get some additional event sources, like f.e. notifications
<ifreund> maybe we need a centralized dbus to varlink bridge service xD
<ifreund> then only one of us has to write dbus code
<ifreund> I have no idea if that would be a practical thing to do or not
<leon-p> tempting :)
<leon-p> I am somewhat hopefull that the few events I am interested in (mostly notifications and perhaps MPRIS) don't require too much DBus
<leon-p> anyway, back to pondering a good abstraction over keybinds
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<yin> can we hot reload the config?
<ifreund> yin: you can run your init file a second time
<ifreund> there's no special hot reload feature though
<TheAnachron> would be nice if we ever got a "unmap all" command.
<yin> i see
<yin> is it automatic tiling only, or can we configure it to be manual?
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<ifreund> automatic only