09:19 <choucavalier> i'm trying to set up a systemd user unit for kanshi (using river on arch linux). for sway they have this unit file: https://github.com/xdbob/sway-services/blob/master/systemd/kanshi.service

09:19 <choucavalier> thing is, on river this wayland-session.target does not exist

09:20 <choucavalier> what is the right way to set up a unit that depends on river running? i'd like the kanshi daemon to start running whenever river is running

09:21 <choucavalier> forget it. i'm completely stupid. i just need to do riverctl spawn kanshi

14:47 <voidlinux> Hi guys, i have a autostart section on my init file but this programs not autostart when i open river, did i write wrong or any other problem?

14:47 <voidlinux> Here is my init file

14:47 <voidlinux> #!/bin/bash # -------------------------------------------------------- # DEĞİŞKENLER # -------------------------------------------------------- riverctl spawn "export MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1" # -------------------------------------------------------- # ÖNTANIMLI AYARLAR # -------------------------------------------------------- TERMINAL=foot MENU="wofi --show drun" KB_LAYOUT=tr # ---------------------------------------------------

14:47 <voidlinux> ----- # PROGRAMLAR # -------------------------------------------------------- riverctl map normal Super Return spawn $TERMINAL riverctl map normal Super BackSpace spawn "$MENU" # Super+Q Odaklanılmış uygulamayı kapat riverctl map normal Super Q close # Super+Shift+{Right,Left} riverctl map normal Super+Shift Right focus-view next riverctl map normal Super+Shift Left focus-view previous # riverct

14:47 <voidlinux> l map normal Super+Control Left send-layout-cmd rivertile "main-ratio -0.05" riverctl map normal Super+Control Right send-layout-cmd rivertile "main-ratio +0.05" riverctl map normal Super+Control Up send-layout-cmd rivertile "main-count +1" riverctl map normal Super+Control Down send-layout-cmd rivertile "main-count -1" for i in $(seq 1 9) do tags=$((1 << ($i -1))) riverctl map normal Super $i set-focused-tags $tags riverctl map n

14:47 <voidlinux> romal Super+Shift $i set-view-tags $tags riverctl map normal Super+Control $i toggle-focused-tags $tags riverctl map normal Super+Shift+Control $i toggle-view-tags $tags done riverctl map normal Super+Control Z zoom riverctl map normal Super+Control Q exit riverctl keyboard-layout $KB_LAYOUT riverctl map-pointer normal Super BTN_MIDDLE toggle-float riverctl map-pointer normal Super BTN_LEFT move-view riverctl map-pointer normal

14:47 <voidlinux> Super BTN_RIGHT resize-view riverctl set-repeat 50 300 riverctl map normal Super+Shift KP_Subtract spawn "brightnessctl s 5-" riverctl map normal Super+Shift KP_Add spawn "brightnessctl s +5" # --------------------------------------------------------- # DÜZEN # --------------------------------------------------------- riverctl default-layout rivertile rivertile -view-padding 6 \ -outer-padding 6 & riverctl rule-add -app-id 'Wa

14:47 <voidlinux> ydroid' float pipewire & waybar &

14:48 <voidlinux> Or i have pastebin.com link

14:48 <voidlinux> https://pastebin.com/E7x8wWH0

14:49 <voidlinux> The last 2 line are autostart programs.

16:02 <szgy> I see only one `rivertctl spawn` on that init, on line 7 which doesn't actually spawn a program, but sets an env var.

16:03 <szgy> I would refrain from doing that on a river init, setting up env vars makes more sense on smth like `~/.profile` since it would be set up for every terminal instance.

16:04 <szgy> @voidlinux: also, beware that if you want to autostart smth when river starts you need some logic to prevent them running every time you want to update the config while river is running. Smth like checking the output of running `tty` == `tty1`

16:08 <ifreund> (they are gone)

16:23 <szgy> (I guess they'll see it when they come back, if they use some bouncer...)

16:25 <szgy> @leon-p: I remember that you talked about using a repl to send cmds to an antares instance. Wondering how you made this considering that `antares_run` is blocking. Didn't see any guile code that indicated using threads for the repl instance or smth like that

16:29 <ifreund> szgy: afaik this is done by the scheme implementation providing a repl server which can be connected to while running a scheme program

16:29 <ifreund> the scheme implementation handles the concurrency and other magic

16:31 <szgy> ohhh, ook. Was wondering how to deal with antares blocking the main thread from lua. Using coroutines from Lua needs some change on the C code to yield on every loop I _think_

16:31 <ifreund> szgy: iirc fennel has a repl, perhaps you could look into how they do it

16:31 <ifreund> (fennel is a lispy frontend for lua)

16:31 <szgy> And I wanted to avoid bringing some thread lib and sticking to standard lua

16:32 <szgy> yeah yeah I know fennel, but if you want to use a repl (or just interact with the running instance with like a socket or some form of IPC) you need coroutines or threads

16:33 <szgy> and coroutines needs the blocking part to cooperate...

16:33 <ifreund> I see

16:33 <ifreund> well, I think you know more about this than I do, perhaps people in #fennel would be more helpful :)

16:35 <szgy> yeah maybe...

16:36 <szgy> I'm thinking its more related to how antares is run. so keen to know what leon-p thinks. Like, maybe exposing a `tick` callback (run on every frame) so that antares can play nice with languages that don't have native threads in their usual runrime

16:36 <szgy> *runtime

16:40 <ifreund> you would probably need to integrate with the event loop of anares somehow

16:41 <szgy> yep, smth along that

16:41 <szgy> don't think I can do that from luajit's ffi alone, but I may be wrong...

16:42 <ifreund> the antares C library would first need to provide an API that makes it possible to do so

16:42 <ifreund> or it would need to provide a way to integrate antares with an event loop you control somehow

16:44 <szgy> yep. I think the easiest path would be the API? but I don't actually know

17:03 <Guest91> Hi, how I change resolution and refresh rate in river config? I cant find that in man page....

17:05 <szgy> Guest91: you should use other software to do that. Like kanshi or wlr-randr

17:08 <Guest91> ok and last thing what I cant find cuz prob that isnt implemented, is it possible to set blur background for terminal app with config?

17:12 <szgy> nna, river doesn't have eyecandy like that. Maybe with the new river-management-protocol, it'll become posible for window managers on top of river to implement it

17:13 <szgy> (and also, I think specifically blur background of a specific terminal is smth that should be configured on that specific terminal I think?)

17:21 <Guest91> Ohh yeah, I just switched from alacritty to kitty and kitty has background_blur, but seems like that only works in macos and kde. Sadge, but I can live without that

17:26 <Guest91> btw is anyone gaming in river? I tried forza horizon 5 and it feels like I play on 60hz, but wlr-randr shows that I have current profile with 164hz. In Gnome game is running so smooth.

17:27 <ifreund> Guest91: which river version are you running? VRR/adaptive sync is broken in 0.3.6

17:27 <ifreund> there's a fix on master branch, I should probably release 0.3.7 shortly

17:28 <ifreund> https://codeberg.org/river/river/issues/1173

17:28 <Guest91> I have river-0.3.6_1 version, I use void distro

17:43 <ifreund> tagged 0.3.7 with the fix :)

18:45 <Guest91> ty, I will test 0.3.7 once void will accept my pull request

19:26 <leon-p> szgy: the guile repl is indeed run in another thread (or "fiber", not quite sure) which guile spawns automagically

19:27 <leon-p> this also means it's not a good idea to modify a value which is currently being used by an event handler

19:27 <leon-p> you can have a repl in a single threaded program, guile can give you an fd you can poll on

19:28 <leon-p> eventually I am going to use that, to avoid the hassle of the repl being non-thread safe by just removing threads all together

19:28 <leon-p> so eventually there will be a way to provide antares_run() with additional fd's

19:29 <leon-p> I am not sure if I want to make it possible to use a foreign event-loop; you need to do a lot of things to a Wayland fd if you poll on it, and users forgetting to do all that is something I just don't want to debug in the future

19:43 <ifreund> sounds reasonable

21:34 <leon-p> small addendum: I am also not entirely sure yet if antares internally will only listen to the Wayland socket. there is a fair amount of functionality hidden behind DBus which may enable interesting and useful features, if it was usable in a less painful way. this again would make it harder to use a foreign event loop

21:34 <Guest91> I updated to 0.3.7 and it works much better now (I didnt had adaptive-sync enabled btw). Tried now to enable adaptive-sync in 0.3.7 and I got screen-tearing or flickering I cannot tell. After 3 minutes of platying the game my pc just froze.

21:36 <ifreund> that sounds like a bug somewhere lower in the graphics stack

21:36 <ifreund> Guest91: anything in dmesg?

21:40 <Guest91> There is a lot of things going on in dmesg. This thing I have in red color

21:40 <Guest91> 8.041745] tpm_crb MSFT0101:00: [Firmware Bug]: ACPI region does not cover the entire command/response buffer. [mem 0xfed40000-0xfed4087f flags 0x201] vs fed40080 f80

21:40 <Guest91> [    8.041779] tpm_crb MSFT0101:00: [Firmware Bug]: ACPI region does not cover the entire command/response buffer. [mem 0xfed40000-0xfed4087f flags 0x201] vs fed40080 f80