16:57 <__toor__> How can I start ssh-agent such that applications that I spawn from init has access to those environment variables? case in mind is foot-server and foot-client

16:59 <TheAnachron> __toor__: I just set the ENV to a fixed location.

16:59 <TheAnachron> (SSH_AUTH_SOCK)

16:59 <__toor__> and the PID you just ignore?

16:59 <__toor__> or re-source it from some .pid file? idk if its required for ssh

17:01 <TheAnachron> What do you need the PID for?

17:01 <__toor__> idk if its needed for something. but since ssh-agent exports it to the environment i figured it was useful for some applications :)

17:02 <TheAnachron> you could redirect ssh-agent to a fixed destination and source that one whenever you need it. but I found no use for the PID yet.

17:03 <TheAnachron> basically ssh-agent prints a "source-able" text that you could save to a file. but really, I would just set the ENV to someplace specific.

17:07 <__toor__> hmm, I have another solution at my workstation, that forgot about. Well' not the workstation, but the solution

17:07 <__toor__> https://imgur.com/a/snfCSQ4

17:07 <TheAnachron> rate limited by imgur.

17:08 <TheAnachron> Maybe use a better service? :-)

17:08 <__toor__> rate limited? lol I just uploaded it

17:08 <__toor__> you're restricted to zero views

17:09 <__toor__> anyways, I launch ssh-agent dbus-session river

17:09 <__toor__> like matroska 3 levels

17:09 <__toor__> this might work, I have to check that I am not doing something weird somewhere else

17:11 <__toor__> in init I only run foot-server with riverctl spawn so it should be good.

17:12 <__toor__> river does not prune any environment flags from its spawn, and foot-server does not do that either so all good

17:12 <__toor__> I like it when "security thinking" does not go out and do work, to break workflows.

17:13 <__toor__> too often I see engineered failure

17:13 <__toor__> "let's break the deployment if the pylint fails!" or "let's not send data if it doesnt validate the spec".. that's a warning. don't assert on something that is not strictly required, please. :D

23:17 <senoraraton> Anyone have success setting up river on Gentoo? I installed it, xdg-portal-wlr and xdg-portal, but Its failing to start with invalid XDG_RUNTIME_DIR

23:21 <TheAnachron> What did you set it got, senoraraton ?

23:21 <TheAnachron> s/got/to/, damn autocorrect

23:22 <senoraraton> Nothing. For some reason wlroots is trying to create an x11 backend, and not a wayland backend.

23:23 <senoraraton> My xdg-portal output shows it wcannot autolaunch D-Bus without x11 $DISPLAY. I set display=:0.0 and now when I start river: error(wlroots) backend.c:224 cannot create x11 backend: disabled at compile time Error:backendCreateFailed.

23:23 <senoraraton> Which it should be. I don't want X11, I want wayland. I was under the impression river is a wayland compositor.

23:24 <TheAnachron> You have to set the right variables. you dont need xdg-portal for starting river.

23:24 <senoraraton> Then why is wlr-roots telling me it can't start X11?

23:24 <senoraraton> What are the "right variables"

23:25 <TheAnachron> senoraraton: I just run a shell script to set some xdg and wayland env vars and then start river.

23:26 <senoraraton> Can you link me your shell script?

23:28 <TheAnachron> this is old but should still work if you adjust it:

23:28 <TheAnachron> https://paste.sr.ht/~anachron/879dbd4e126836d3f92b34c538ae806f8bd7b7f7

23:29 <TheAnachron> This is old but should still work if you adjust it.

23:35 <senoraraton> I got it, I needed to manually creat the RTD directory, and it came right up.

23:41 <TheAnachron> perfect! enjoy river

23:41 <senoraraton> Well... No. Just on to the next problem. My Terminal isn't launching.

23:42 <TheAnachron> head over to https://codeberg.org/river/wiki/

23:44 <TheAnachron> you got to modify the default init file https://codeberg.org/river/river/src/branch/master/example/init and adjust it to your needs.

23:44 <senoraraton> The wiki seemed... subpar. It mostly dealth with issues IN River, but my issues are PRE river.

23:44 <senoraraton> I did.

23:44 <senoraraton> I changed foot to kitty, but apparently kitty has errors.

23:46 <TheAnachron> Cant help you with that. check the output of river to figure out whats wrong

23:47 <senoraraton> Lookts like its DBUS problems.