01:38 <adamcstephens> leon made the suggestion above and it’s a good one. it’s helpful to run River using systemd-exec since it can capture all the output into the journal for you

08:49 <leon-p> incoming name collision: https://www.memorysafety.org/blog/introducing-river/

09:37 <ninewise> other than the search results on floating tree trunks down waterways when querying 'river logging'? :D

11:41 <maralorn> I have a cringe question: Has anyone successfully used river for incoming teamviewer connections and can tell me what I need to do to make that work?

11:42 <ifreund> what is teamviewer?

11:43 <maralorn> It’s a proprietary tool for remote code execution.

11:44 <ifreund> ok... and what does it have to do with river? is it trying to read the contents of your screen or something?

11:44 <maralorn> Ugh, I mean its a remote desktop protocol https://www.teamviewer.com/de/

11:45 <maralorn> It’s screensharing + input.

11:45 <maralorn> So I guess it needs some kind of portal?

11:46 <ifreund> yeah, you need to set up xdg-desktop-portal-wlr and pipewire

11:47 <maralorn> What has pipewire to do with it?

11:47 <maralorn> Anyway generally screensharing works for me.

11:47 <ifreund> pipewire is what the xdg-desktop-portal stuff uses for screen sharing

11:48 <maralorn> Huh, I see.

11:48 <ifreund> so what's not working with teamviewer then? the input side of things?

11:49 <ifreund> does it work on any wayland compositor?

11:51 <maralorn> Well, I have no clue, what’s not working. And I don’t know if it would under gnome. Symptom is, that the incoming client sees a perpetual "Connecting …". While I see in the logs of my teamviewer daemon:

11:51 <maralorn> Feb 29 12:51:19 hephaistos su[2376308]: Successful su for maralorn by root

11:52 <maralorn> Feb 29 12:51:19 hephaistos su[2376308]: pam_unix(su:session): session opened for user maralorn(uid=1000) by (uid=0)

11:52 <maralorn> Feb 29 12:51:19 hephaistos su[2376308]: pam_unix(su:session): session closed for user maralorn

11:52 <maralorn> And that’s it.

11:52 <maralorn> No other reaction, no popup, no indication in my open teamviewer client.

11:52 <maralorn> It could be anything. Maybe I need to open some ports, no clue …

11:52 <ifreund> hmm, yeah not really much to go on there for me :/

11:53 <ifreund> may try searching around on the internet to see if anyone's got it working on any wayland compositor, or any wlroots-based compositor

11:54 <maralorn> Well, in their guide they have screenshots of it working in gnome.

11:54 <maralorn> Ah, that’s not wlroots, I see your point.

11:55 <maralorn> But thank you for indulging my problem.

11:56 <ifreund> good luck!

11:56 <maralorn> Huh, just realizing that my teamviewer client is using Xwayland.

12:19 <maralorn> Different question about screensharing in general. The portal seems to be starting scrot to let me choose an output (which is kinda unnecessary when I only have one output.) Can I configure that so that scrot lets me draw an arbitrary rectangle to share like it does for screenshots?

12:22 <maralorn> Ah, it’s slurp and not scrot. :D

12:23 <ifreund> maralorn: that's blocked on this PR I believe: https://github.com/emersion/xdg-desktop-portal-wlr/pull/156

12:24 <maralorn> So, currently slurp can only be used to choose the input?

12:25 <ifreund> only sharing entire outputs at a time is supported

12:25 <maralorn> Okay, good to know.

16:10 <Pineapple> Hi. How do I make windows transparent when they lose focus?

16:53 <leon-p> Pineapple: that is not a supported feature right now

16:55 <Pineapple> Oh ok. I like that better than colored borders, but that is usable too. Thanks for answering leon-p