sorear changed the topic of #riscv to: RISC-V instruction set architecture | https://riscv.org | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/riscv
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<bjdooks> urgh, ubifs is a pain in the backside
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<conchuod> bjdooks: is that a regression? We're on an oldish version of uboot, but are using it afaik
<bjdooks> not sure, i built ubi and ubifs on 2022.10 and it failed to build
<conchuod> Weird, pretty sure it was fine on 22.01, but I doubt my daily boot config for uboot contains it
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<bjdooks> I'm looking at it as ext4 isn't really a suitable flash filing system
<conchuod> Yeah, we use it for that t
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<mps> oh, u-boot doesn't support f2fs
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<Tenkawa> yeah currently only these
<Tenkawa> btrfs CBFS Cramfs ext2 ext3 ext4 FAT FDOS JFFS2 ReiserFS Squashfs
<mps> yes, I see in tree
<Tenkawa> "I" wish it would support xfs personally
<mps> never looked how hard would be to add another FS to u-boot
<Tenkawa> Heh good point
<Tenkawa> probably some good areas for it for some "use cases"
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<Tenkawa> I think maintaining adding new ones would be the the biggest hurdle
<mps> for now I don't have incentive for such task
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<Tenkawa> heheh I hear ya
<Tenkawa> I'm concentrating on making the Visionfive 2 run efficiently with this
<Tenkawa> Linux vf2 6.2.14-vf2+ #7 SMP Fri May 5 07:30:17 EDT 2023 riscv64 GNU/Linux
<Tenkawa> Got it finally running from my NVMe now with no errors or io hangs
<Tenkawa> its not lightning fast yet... working on debugging that now
<Tenkawa> still nicely improved though
<mps> I hope 'my' VF2 will arrive in a week or two and then will start to make alpine linux working on it
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<clemens3> new here.. what's the goto OS on qemu with a risc-v emulation for starting to play around with risc-v?
<clemens3> OS=OS or distro
<heat> linux
<heat> can't speak on distros though
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<muurkha> lots of people use FreeBSD too
<muurkha> bjdooks: ext4 works okay on flash on top of an FTL
<bjdooks> Yes but uboot does not support that
<muurkha> it doesn't support ext4?
<bjdooks> There's no mtd block devixs so attaching ezt3 to mtd isn't on
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<palmer> clemens3: many distros have unofficial ports, what do you usually use?
<conchuod> bjdooks: apparently we fixed it downstream but noone sent the patches
<bjdooks> Hah
<conchuod> ikr
<bjdooks> That's the story of my life
<conchuod> We need to bump our u-boot soonTM, I'll try to get everything sent, although I think 99% of it is vendor-specific.
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<clemens3> palmer: I use Linux From Scratch, but open, as it is for qemu..
<palmer> LFS should work fine (or I guess as fine as it ever does...)
<clemens3> palmer: I know for arm/pi its raspbian and armbian.... well, hard enough to build lfs for x86..
<palmer> we're way more upstream focused than the raspberry pi folks
<clemens3> so then what are ppl here running on they risc-v machines/images?
<clemens3> so everything goes, basically, that sounds not bad at all
<palmer> you're probably going to find a mix. The vendor SDKs tend to be buildroot or open embedded, there's out of tree Debian and Fedora ports that work fine
<palmer> Ubuntu has unofficial ports for a handful of boards, too
<clemens3> I just read about amd incorporating this pluton msft chip.. so really time to look for an escape hatch:)
<clemens3> as i am looking for qemu first, that should be more generic i guess
<clemens3> ok, i look for some of these..
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<conchuod> Vendor SDKs aside, buildroot is nice for building a usable initramfs, but it's not gonna give you a toolchain.
<palmer> yep. I use buildroot for my testing stuff because it's super easy to get a rootfs, but it's pretty minimal even in the biggest configs
<conchuod> I'm too lazy to build a proper userspace w/ a toolchain etc, so I just ripped ones out of Debian and Fedora.
<muurkha> bjdooks: oh, I see
<bjdooks> Yeah. Going to ubifs will solve a few problems with not having to write new uboot code
<bjdooks> I'm using yocto vuidlrotoot and debian
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<rory_be_> Ugh! patched QEMU to support big endian risc-v...
<rory_be_> Only to find that glibc never implemented a dynamic linker for big endian mode! Only static linked programs run.
<rory_be_> What a rabbit hole I am descending
<jedix> dynamic linking is probably a dead end anyways.. everyone will get back to static linked snaps...probably.
<jedix> seriously though, that's brutal
<rory_be_> At some point it will stop being fun and I will simply stick with aarch64_be - but I'm not dead yet
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<jedix> my go to for testing BE is s390
<rory_be_> Your electricity must be far cheaper than mine!
<jedix> well, qemu s390 :)
<muurkha> didn't glibc implement a dynamic linker for S/390 and big-endian ARM?
<jedix> yes, I think he was saying they did not for riscv
<Tenkawa> fyi for anyone that's been trying to order one the Star64's are finally avail on pine64.org
<drewfustini> good pointer, I saw it over on #ubuntu-riscv and ordered one
<drewfustini> my VF2 went to kernelci so i'm still wanting a JH7110 to test with
<rory_be_> Correct. I thought the entire GNU toolchain including the libs supported BE, but for whatever reason they skipped the dynamic linker for riscv BE, even though they support it for aarch64_be
<Tenkawa> this will be my second jh7110 (I have a VF2 as well)
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<rory_be_> Compare/contrast VF2 vs Star64? They seem quite similar...
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<drewfustini> it looks like it has PCIe slot on star64 which is attractive to me
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<jedix> yeah, I question how well that will work
<jedix> I mean, initially
<drewfustini> That is a the part I'm interested in. I work with PCIe bringup on other SoC's so I'm interested to contrast.
<rory_be_> That is nice... but there are m.2 to PCIe adapters. That's what I use (since e Star64 was unavailable)
<jedix> I was debating using this board with a soundcard for a multi-room audio solution but I still need to solve the amp
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