<muurkha>
what are the drawbacks of RVV 0.71, another|?
<conchuod>
muurkha: I hope they sell a DN board.
<muurkha>
DN?
<jrtc27>
it's a non-standard conflicting extension
<muurkha>
still, I'm not sure I want a computer named after the Trojan Horse supercomputers sent to halt Earth technical progress in the Three Body Problem
<muurkha>
how is it better or worse than the standard, jrtc27?
<jrtc27>
not my area of experties
<jrtc27>
*se
<muurkha>
aw
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<jrtc27>
but for whatever reason the final 1.0 standard made some changes from the 0.7.1 draft
<muurkha>
and honey badger didn't care, eh?
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<jrtc27>
nope, they implemented the draft and called it V
<muurkha>
hopefully the nominative determinism energy is not as strong in SOPHON
<jrtc27>
at the time they started development, sure, 0.7.1 was the current draft
<jrtc27>
but that does not mean it's ok to actually go and ship it
<jrtc27>
that just means you should start building the core parts and tweak them at the end to match the ratified standard
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<muurkha>
when you say "should", do you mean that it would suit someone's preferences better?
<vagrantc>
muurkha: but, that is exactly *why* i am excited to see it!
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<muurkha>
I mean, plausibly that someone isn't a Pingtouge founder
<muurkha>
or do you mean that it would be better according to some objective system of values?
<muurkha>
vagrantc: why?
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<muurkha>
conchuod: what is a DN board?
<conchuod>
It was a childish joke, dw about it.
<muurkha>
I'm curious if they've been able to onshore the SG2042 production or if they're still dependent on TSMC
<muurkha>
conchuod: sorry, whhooshhA
<vagrantc>
muurkha: because i loved that trilogy :)
<muurkha>
hahaha
<muurkha>
if your new motherboard starts punching holes in your retina don't say I didn't warn you
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<Armand>
conchuod: Oi! Step off!! Childish jokes are my job!! :P
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dws
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<drewfustini>
interesting, I didn't know Sophon was from a novel
<drewfustini>
I've been confused about Sophgo vs. Sophon
<drewfustini>
jrtc27: when I asked about importance of Svpbmt or Zicbom in a fully coherent SoC, you mentation that Svpbmt could be useful for PCIe write-combining. For that WC use case, would IO (value 2) be the correct mode to use?
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<muurkha>
drewfustini: it's maybe the most popular science fiction novel in China
<muurkha>
maybe like the Foundation Trilogy in USA?
<muurkha>
or Dune
<drewfustini>
I'd heard of the name but wasn't familiar with what happens in it. I might have to check it out.
<drewfustini>
I like sci-fi
<muurkha>
amusingly, when I ask Google [most popular scifi novels] it lists: Dune, Frankenstein, The Three-Body Problem, The Left Hand of Darkness, Neuromancer, The Time Machine, Snow Crash
<muurkha>
maybe Snow Crash is a better analogy, because Foundation feels old
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<jrtc27>
drewfustini: 1 (NC), since the point is to be able to splat a big blob of graphics data into the GPU's memory, issue a single fence to ensure it's all been written there (but you don't care what order it's written in etc, it's really just memory) and then tell the GPU to use it
<jrtc27>
2 is for the opposite; letting you treat something that the system otherwise believes is normal memory as an MMIO device with side-effecting writes etc and all that entails