sorear changed the topic of #riscv to: RISC-V instruction set architecture | https://riscv.org | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/riscv
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<sevan> I was wondering, what was the thinking behind using EFI on risc-v, it's a fresh arch with no legacy technical debt, wouldn't a fresh approach be better or something not platform specific be better?
<sevan> just curious, not trying to troll and start a fight. the idea of drive letters and drivers for uefi boggles my mind. (something dos-like was the best they could come up with when the engineers sat down to build the sucessor to bios?)
<sevan> this is in the uefi shell if you have that payload
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<pabs3> being similar to other arches is a good idea, many arches switched to little-endian in recent times for eg
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<sevan> pabs3: early boot firmware doesn't really matter to userspace. (either direction you're going to have to put effort into making something work and you ideally want to avoid shoehorning something which results in inheriting decisions that don't make any sense in your context.)
<sevan> pabs3: power still supports best-endian mode ;) j/k
<pabs3> power endianness is per-process even I heard
<sevan> and same with cambridge limb
<pabs3> limb?
<sevan> arm
<pabs3> heh
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<sevan> didn't know that about power, which the hardware was more accessible.
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<pabs3> RaptorCS is expensive but not IBM-expensive, so if you have disposable income it is doable
<pabs3> anyway, UEFI. its a standard, people like standards
<pabs3> personally I prefer the RaptorCS approach of libre firmware (almost) everywhere
<sevan> openfirmware is an IEEE standard
<sevan> :)
<sevan> +1 re RaptorCS
<pabs3> openfirmware is an unpopular standard compared to UEFI though?
<sevan> it's generic and portable vs itanium firmware, backported to x86, ported to arm so windows can run easily :)
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<pabs3> yeah, worse things usually win
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<sevan> are you winning? :)
<sevan> I'll stop
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<pabs3> :)
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<rneese> mornig
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<bjoto> conchuod: Wait -- generic entry v16. Was there a warning or not?
<drewfustini> conchuod: btw, if you had not seen before, there is #kernelci on libera and people like Kevin Hilman (khilman) are in there
<conchuod> There were pre-existing warnings that Guo moved around
<conchuod> drewfustini: thanks!
<bjoto> conchuod: Ah, good, so no new added.
<bjoto> palmer: ...then I'd say have a look at v16. From my view it's good for next.
<conchuod> probably should've been fixed, but w/e
<palmer> bjoto: cool, can you just R-B it or something?
<palmer> I'll try and take a look, but there's a few other things too
<bjoto> Cool!
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