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<bjdooks> anyone thinking of going to embedded world (March, Nurenberg)?
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<mmind00> palmer: https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-riscv/patch/20230113212205.3534622-1-heiko@sntech.de/ ... for allowing "jal" instructions in alternatives blocks
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<bjdooks> who needs heating in the office when you have yocto builds to do
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<conchuod> Esmil: do you have a public tree with visionfive stuff in one place?
<bjdooks> I really should look at my board, but i've had f'all time
<bjdooks> conchuod: just booked hotel and flights for early feb, so going to be fun to try CRL for the first time
<conchuod> What's CRL?
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<bjdooks> the airport ryanair claims is in brussels
<bjdooks> (so about 1hr by train)
<conchuod> Ohh haha, to be honest 1h train is w/e to me
<bjdooks> it was that or double te price for anything that goes close to the city
<bjdooks> which reminds me to check my hand luggage options
<conchuod> Seemingly from Dublin they fly to BRU
<bjdooks> yeah, the options for MAN<>BRU were not great, and Brussels air looks like ryainair with bandaids
* bjdooks is still annoyed he couldn't be insured on his mate's jag to go drive
<jrtc27> it's as close to brussels as luton is to central london...
<jrtc27> though calling that london has always been a bit ridiculous
<bjdooks> at least it isn't slough
<conchuod> I remember reading in a biography of Michael O'Leary that Ryanair got done for illegal state aid cos of their partnership with that airport
<dh`> flying in elsewhere and driving is a reasonable option in a lot of cases
<dh`> at least if you don't hate driving and depending on gas prices and other factors
<conchuod> Hire cares are so expensive
<conchuod> cars*... If you're going to a city centre trains are just too convenient
<dh`> e.g. I once flew into SFO for a conference in San Jose, and I once flew into San Jose for a conference in Monterey
<bjdooks> for that i've used Caltrain
<dh`> trains are fine if there's enough of them and they're reliable enough to get you back to the airport on time
<dh`> this is mostly not a thing in the US
<conchuod> The area around that caltrain is a shithole
<bjdooks> I've only recently got a driving license
<conchuod> dh`: yah, I've only been out of Europe once so pretty biased towards how things are here..
<dh`> the drive down to monterey was quite nice once you get out of san jose (but unfortunately, san jose goes on and on)
<dh`> the drive from SFO to San Jose less so, but I ended up doing it at 3am
<dh`> and sometimes I feel like the people who complain about bay area traffic don't have any experience with boston/new york/toronto
<dh`> anyway, often you'll need a car anyway, or one person in your group will need to
<dh`> the tech conferences I go to are _mostly_ good about that, but not always, especially in california
<dh`> and at that point the tradeoff is the gas cost (and carbon guilt) of the drive vs. the horrible plane tickets
<conchuod> I didn't expect the roads to be so bad in SFO -> San Jose
<bjdooks> the last time I did it we ended up getting Uber to get to SFO
<bjdooks> one day I will get the courage to try driving in the USA
<conchuod> I walked 15 minutes to the caltrain, yeah not a city that I really liked walking in...
<bjdooks> I got an uber to the coffee shop nearby... and then rememberred i'd been there ~8 years earlier for another conference
<dh`> I am a native boston driver, you can't go by me :-)
<bjdooks> I've mostly driven in UK and DE...
<bjdooks> i've been driven around in Italy and that scares me
<dh`> Italy I'd be cautious about. Germany I'd probably wipe out any overall cost savings in traffic tickets :-)
<bjdooks> I enjoyed the autobahn and didn't get a single ticket
<bjdooks> I've only narrowly avoided a couple of tickets in the uk
<bjdooks> grr, annoying Embedded OSS hasn't got registration details, want to get my conferecnes budgeted
<bjdooks> hmm, do i want a can of gross misconduct, or a bottle of it
<bjdooks> most of the times i've been in the US were for work trips so expenses
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<conchuod> palmer: mmind00: hopefully I remembered correctly: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-riscv/Y8hqptFcUgjhns4F@spud/
<conchuod> I need to go update my visionfive's u-boot or w/e cos I cannot find a kernel tree with working ethernet
<bjdooks> there's also the vector crypto extension(s) coming up for ratifications
<jrtc27> citation needed?
<jrtc27> upstream gcc and binutils don't know about xventana*
<jrtc27> and for xthead* gcc doesn't but binutils does (AFAICT) and binutils splits it up into multiple extensions
<conchuod> Perhaps I misheard which project handled it that way so!
<jrtc27> and on the llvm side we don't have xthead* but we do have xventanacondops
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<bjdooks> iirc zvkb, zkvg and co
<bjdooks> should have been frozen by now, we're still working off drafts
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<palmer> did anyone get the JH77110 (or whatever that Visionfive 2 is called) running?
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<bjdooks> palmer: mine is currently a desk weight
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