sorear changed the topic of #riscv to: RISC-V instruction set architecture | https://riscv.org | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/riscv
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<micttyl> hello folks, do you know where i can find the Unmatched mini itx? i looked around for a preowned, it seems people haven't yet enjoyed enough?
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* pabs3 would suggest waiting for the next iteration of (faster) hardware; visionfive2, star64, etc
<jrtc27> forums.sifive.com occasionally has people selling them
<micttyl> pabs3, jrtc27: thank you.
<pabs3> are SiFive going to put out newer stuff? or are they no longer doing boards?
<micttyl> they already have stuffs later than u74 iirc so it should be newer stuff
<The_Decryptor> Well Horse Creek should be out by the end of 2022, so any day now
<micttyl> The_Decrytor: can't wait for new ME for riscv!
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<bjdooks> I really hope they are doing the pro-p550 or I am out of a job
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<conchuod> optee in opensbi 🤔
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<prabhakarlad> Hi all, quick Q regarding handling vendor_ext_provider() callbacks in OpenSBI. Should the callback check extid every time and if not expected return 0/einval?
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* jrtc27 decides to play electronics teacher
<conchuod> jrtc27: leave me out of it!
<conchuod> jrtc27: I also think that the description for that property is poor
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<vineetg762> kito-cheng: Do you know if gcc generates a generic builtin corresponding to -m[no-]strict-align - quick look shows nothing which is a bit surprising
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<jrtc27> builtin?
<jrtc27> why would a command-line option make gcc generate a builtin?
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<vineetg762> jrtc27: preprocessor builtin - e.g. -march=rv64gv generates __riscv_vector
<vineetg762> maybe poor wording - preprocessor maro - but the gcc internal function to do that is called builtin_something
<jrtc27> hm, GCC does seem to call this a "CPP builtin"
<jrtc27> ew
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<palmer> vineetg762: IIRC they're all in riscv-c.cc, I'm not seeing anything for misaligned access speed/support
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<vineetg762> palmer: yeah we need to add one
<jrtc27> I'm generally of the view you shouldn't have one, you should write the unaligned form and let the compiler optimise it to the aligned form
<jrtc27> but I know Arm does
<vineetg762> A lib writer can have 2 implementations and use the macro to compile time select one vs. other
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<vineetg762> what u propose is hard to do for compiler for asm code
<jrtc27> compilers don't see assembly so not sure what your point is there
<vineetg762> yeah ideally it would be great if compiler did all the fancy stuff for us ;-)
<vineetg762> ok it is more of a gcc driver macro
<jrtc27> normally you just do something like `uint32_t x; memcpy(&x, p, 4); ...` and let the compiler optimise that to `uint32_t x = *(uint32_t *)p`
<jrtc27> it's rare that you need something else
<vineetg762> we can't write vector optimized code in "C"
<jrtc27> yes you can
<jrtc27> use the intrinsics
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<vineetg762> jrtc27: You comment about memset() before read "hide bugs from sanitizers" - are u suggesting we don't init the buffer
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