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<zid> What do you think it will do
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<Hammdist> I have a problem in that wfe seems to wake up all the time in QEMU (i.e., 100% cpu usage) even when I don't send sev. there is only one place in my code where I sev, and I put a write to UART there so I can see all the sevs that are being issued.
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<Hammdist> I also put uart prints around the wfe and it's clearly spinning
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<Ermine> heat: hi, why do you use actions/checkout@v2 for onyx actions?
<Hammdist> ah that status quo as of 8 years ago was that wfe was not implemented as anything except yield https://qemu-devel.nongnu.narkive.com/FhX4qFPp/implemetation-of-wfe-and-sev-instructions-on-aarch64 is this still the situation today?
<bslsk05> ​qemu-devel.nongnu.narkive.com: [Qemu-devel] implemetation of wfe and sev instructions on aarch64
<heat> Ermine, why not?
<Ermine> Idk, I thought you have some reason to use it as opposed to v3
<heat> the way github actions works, uses needs to be fixed to a version
<heat> and that was simply the current version at the time
<Ermine> Okay
<heat> i'm not opposed to ugrading all those deps, but i can't be arsed so i'll keep using old stuff until it blows up in my face
<heat> my ci actions have 72 warnings. nice.
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<mcrod> hi
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<heat> yawns, not yaws
* Ermine yawns because yawns are contagious
* heat linux kernals
<Ermine> krenals
<heat> hey guys whats your favourite page size
<Ermine> 'Krenal' somehow associates with kringles
<kof123> i don't know if i will ever want pages...if it is just bytecode and software...then anything goes lol
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<bslsk05> ​github.com: COFFLoader2/COFF_Loader.c at master · Yaxser/COFFLoader2 · GitHub
<vai> looking at this
<vai> looks more matured up, I could not find any ELF32 source code
<vai> most ELF32 implementations are bad
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<sham1> 4096 octets is the best page size, and that's a fact
<acidx> heat: I like A5
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<sortie> https://sortie.sortix.org/for/osdev/PXL_20231114_160434101.jpg ← Well I failed to install Windows 11 inside a Qemu VM on my Sortix laptop, but I did get all the way into the registry to set the secret variables to bypass the system requirements, but alas the installer still didn't think my VM was good enough :)
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<heat> acidx, im not sure if my MMU takes A5 but i'll check
<sortie> Windows 11's installer took a while to boot (like 5-10 minutes) but it was actually surprisingly usable and fast once it booted
<heat> that hints that maybe IO just sucked
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<sortie> A bit of a mix of factors but yeah, IO was part of it, unfortunately I couldn't fit a 6 GB file into my ramfs
<sortie> So had to load the installer off disk
<sortie> I think the older qemu is probably a bit buggy and doesn't have all the features, plus I could emulate features better, but whatever :)
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<sortie> Probably the old TCG mode not having all the cpuid stuff that Windows 11 needs these days
<sortie> But was fun to do shift + f10 and pop a command prompt and hack into regedit
<heat> nah i think it should be fine on the CPU end
<sortie> This is qemu 2.7.0
<zid> sortie: I failed to install sortix in windows 10
<geist> i'm kinda digging the 16K pages that lots of ARM folks are going to
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<geist> it's alas a bit more unweildy in hex space, since it's not a nice clean 0x1000 but instead is 0x4000
<geist> but. still easy to do the math in your head, since a page address is either 0, 4, 8, or c
<acidx> sortie: isn't it a TPM requirement not being met?
<sortie> acidx, yeah but that one can be bypassed which I did but it wasn't enough
<geist> 10 doesn't need TPM though right?
<geist> it's 11 that does
<heat> yeah
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<geist> oh i see, 11 was installed
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<heat> btw linux is going to start making use of contiguous ptes on arm
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<geist> oh neat
<geist> riscv has something similar too, so maybe that'll start getting used
<geist> once the general mechanism for the upper level VM is in place to deal with pages like that efficiently
<heat> yeah
<heat> its a generic solution ofc
<heat> (praise be the linux vm)
<Ermine> x86 is sol?
<heat> is what
<sortie> stellar
<heat> i dont get it
<heat> x86 is stellar?
<Ermine> sol = sorry out of luck
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<sortie> oh not sol the star
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<heat> AMD zen has a similar feature but without the bit IIRC
<sortie> short on luck
<heat> it just auto-detects contiguous PTEs with certain alignments IIRC
<heat> because zen is a closeted arm microarchitecture
<moon-child> I think aligned 32kb
<moon-child> because that's 8 ptes which is one cache line
<heat> yeah its written down somewhere but i can't be arsed to look
<moon-child> amd is clearly plagiarising my principle of 'might as well use the whole cache line'
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<zid> those bastards
<zid> AMDAMD AMD, xeon is coal
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<zid> He turned to me as if to say, "Hurry boy, it's waiting there for you"
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