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<Guest50> hi to all, i've just updated my IMAC to sonoma 14.1 and openscad crashes at opening
<Guest50> any idea?
<teepee> what openscad version?
<Guest50> latest downloadable
<Guest50> 2021.01 macintel
<teepee> give the development snapshot a try then
<Guest50> found it i let you know in minutes
<Guest50> it opens!!
<Guest50> great i let you know if all is ok, although i'm not a superuser
<teepee> cool. if you want to try a much faster model generation, you can check preferences and enable "Manifold"
<teepee> it's still an experimental feature, but so far I've seen not many cases where it behaves worse than the good old engine
<Guest50> i use openscad to edit some simple name keychain, the old version is slow enough
<Guest50> i surely try this new option
<teepee> yeah, text tends to make things slow down as it produces lots of vertices
<Guest50> now i need about 1sec before 15/20/30 secs was needed
<Guest50> great improvement
<teepee> yep, the people working on that geometry engine are doing an amazing job
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<guso78k> This is python syntax for use with the customizer. I was mostly able to reuse the comment parser.
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<teepee> why use that horrible stuff?
<teepee> python has native features for adding meta data
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<teepee> hmm, or did they really ignore variables copletely? that would be very annoying :(
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<guso78k> I remember, you did not like to have a 2nd parser in OSCAD before.  This was mainly to demonstrate the successful link from python to the Customizer windows ...
<teepee> I think it would be better if there's a python native way instead of trying to make it identical to the ugly comment parsing that exists because Thingiverse did not want to change OpenSCAD code
<teepee> did you see the PEP link?
<teepee> also it seems using doc-strings for variables is sort-of possible
<guso78k> yes, i did notice the PEP link, but did not yet look into.
<teepee> no rush, just wondering with the various disconnects and multiple users :)
<teepee> it seems a construct like:
<teepee> s = "string variable"
<teepee> ''' this is a python docstring for variable s '''
<teepee> is not fully and officially supported but some python tools supposedly understand it anyway
<guso78k> using chat lot will always tell me the complete history. yep i know that multiple users is  concern for you. you can recognize me as /guso.*/
<teepee> it would only make direct messages a bit confusing, but otherwise it's no problem
<guso78k> hmm naturally a description for a variable will be in front of it. but of course, will need to read the pep
<teepee> well, on python it's after the definition
<teepee> I like it better the other way around, but staying near standard python seems like a good idea
<teepee> claims PyCharm and VSCode accept this docstring style too
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<gbruno> [github] kintel pushed 1 modifications (Added Flattr website ID Temporarily needed to verify Flattr identity) https://github.com/openscad/openscad.github.com/commit/bfdbb5756aa1772be37c0bc594b1f000fe873c0b
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<guso78k4> teepee,  propose to use this cryptopp instead: https://github.com/abdes/cryptopp-cmake
<guso78k4> it installs a cryptopp.pc file on install and the name always constant therefore
<teepee> instead how?
<guso78k4> instead using the cryptopp lib which comes with the distro. this is sometimes calles cryptopp and sometimes crypto++ and sometimes provides a .pc file
<teepee> we are already way over the reasonable limit of submodules, if distros have bugs in packages, it would be better if those could be fixed
<guso78k4> understood. story shows that the bugs were not fixed since 2016  and no ETA available. seens we have to improve on cmake modules to search for all possible names.
<teepee> looking at https://github.com/abdes/cryptopp-cmake#why-modern-cmake that *is* the stuff in the repo
<teepee> *in the distros
<guso78k4> Still wondering, how to calculate/estimate an adequate number of submodules ...
<teepee> ahh, no that's cmake packaging
<guso78k4> yep, got confused :)
<teepee> maybe we should get the hint and use nettle or some other lib instead then
<teepee> is there a specific build issue somewhere now?
<guso78k4> now special build issue.  i am just irritated because i had to change the CMakeLists on mac again
<guso78k4> now using all lowercase cryptopp, before it was Cryptopp
<guso78k4> nettele owns a package config file in fedora
<J23k50> https://peopoly.net/products/magneto-x  in case you missed it
<guso78k4> is this better than my anycubic ?
<guso78k4> ok 3um placement precision and tremendous moving speeds for 1400 EUR. yes its better
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<lf94> guso
<lf94> give me your brain
<lf94> how do I fix this
<guso78k4>  i think  i see an error:  you should multiply mx and my additionally with cos(dya)
<guso78k4> but not yet sure if this is the error you are looking for
<guso78k4> you want to specity the position of the camera as rotation and altitude ?
<lf94> yes that might be it
<lf94> ahaha! yep!
<lf94> I was so close, i was multiplying with sin on both :')
<guso78k4> this bug really shot into my eyes!
<lf94> XD
<guso78k4> lf94, thanks again for the nice hp!
<lf94> hp? :)
<guso78k4> homepage
<lf94> ah :D
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