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<Wizzup> hm something pulled in modemmanager, we'll want to block that
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<Wizzup> will re-read this tomorrow, see if we can't fix the gconf issue
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: pre-depends in meta?
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<freemangordon> hmm, mafw-gst-renderer takes lots of memory
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<freemangordon> I wonder if this is a melmeak or gstreamer
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: so that it gets installed first?
<Wizzup> lol, I am waking up still and thought melmeak was a library or sw
<sicelo> :p
<Wizzup> ok, my n900 is dist upgraded
<Wizzup> it's weird, I think the status menu responds faster now, the delay is gone
<Wizzup> I think this is a gpu driver improvement
<Wizzup> the same was true on the d4
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<arno11> Wizzup: interesting @gpu
<arno11> i supposed it is with stock transitions, right ?
<arno11> btw do you think i can easely dist-upgrade my test fresh install ?
<arno11> *suppose
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<arno11> i'm really curious about ram usage with daedalus and qt5 apps behaviour
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<Wizzup> arno11: it will take a few hours and you will run into gconf issues
<Wizzup> so do it in screen and do it over usbnet ssh
<Wizzup> but also, wait a bit, there's the /etc/apt/preferences.d stuff
<Wizzup> I think honestly this weekend we can ask people to mgirate, but if we can solve the gconf error, that'd be _really_ nice
<Wizzup> because everyone hits it, all the time
<arno11> yeah, ok
<Wizzup> I can build a n900 image, would that help with testing?
<arno11> yes sure
<arno11> thx in advance :)
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<arno11> what is the default kernel version btw ?
<Wizzup> stisame as chimaera
<Wizzup> same as chimaera
<arno11> cool :)
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<arno11> argh, failed
<arno11> jave stuff, memory issue again ?
<arno11> *java
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<Wizzup> arno11: will check
<Wizzup> strange, maybe something is not getting unmounted
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<Wizzup> hm, actually see no oom there
<Wizzup> let's just rerun it
<Wizzup> ERROR: Timeout after 10 minutes
<Wizzup> seems like network issue
<Wizzup> just restarted it
<Wizzup> we'll see
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<arno11> ok
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<arno11> it failed again
<freemangordon> Wizzup: wait, daedalus is on linux 6.1?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: let me check
<Wizzup> no, 6.6.53
<Wizzup> I guess I should have said same as chimaera-devel
<freemangordon> well, chimaera is on 6.1, no?
<freemangordon> ah, ok
<Wizzup> :)
<gnarface> uh... daedalus is 6.1
<gnarface> unless you're talking about daedalus-backports...
<Wizzup> maemo ships with it's own kernel
<gnarface> oh
<gnarface> my bad
<freemangordon> soon we'll get 6.12 on omap
<Wizzup> no worries
<Wizzup> freemangordon: yeah, great!
<freemangordon> yeah, I just need some spare time to finish it
<Wizzup> arno11: same error, maybe something with one submodule git
<arno11> uboot ?
<Wizzup> I just tried it locally and hda no issues
<Wizzup> had
<Wizzup> trying again.
<arno11> ok
<Wizzup> tracker3 still indexes home at least
<freemangordon> sure
<freemangordon> why not
<Wizzup> it causes issues with qt putting tmp files in home I think
<Wizzup> load issues
<Wizzup> I think we just need to figure out a way to provide sane leste config on top of default config
<freemangordon> .trackerignore ?
<arno11> .nomedia in home seems sane enough according to tracker doc iirc
<Wizzup> ok
<arno11> or .trackerignore yes
<freemangordon> tracker3 uses .trackerignore afaik
<arno11> ok
<Wizzup> freemangordon: do you know if tracker keeps a log of what is has looked at?
<Wizzup> then we can check that and see if it is doing anything crazy
<freemangordon> log... no idea, but we can watch whatg it does
<freemangordon> *watch
<arno11> Wizzup: still timing out :(
<freemangordon> hmm, .trackerignore does not seem to work on $HOME
<arno11> weird, i use .nomedia for a while with tracker2 with no issue
<freemangordon> .nomedia works
<arno11> ok
<freemangordon> but not .trackerignore
<freemangordon> but honestly, we if qt creates temp files in home, I think that shall be fixed
<Wizzup> tracker3 index -d /home/user
<Wizzup> this also works
<freemangordon> ok, but who will issue that?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: I am not sure if I want to fork qt for that, but if it uses an extension we can ignore files with that extension
<Wizzup> don't know, just reporting :)
<freemangordon> no qt fork, that should be configurable
<freemangordon> do you remember anything about htose files?
<Wizzup> no
<freemangordon> heh, me neither :)
<Wizzup> I bet arno11's assistant might know
<freemangordon> maybe we have th eissue no more?
<freemangordon> where is she?
<Wizzup> in development I guess :D
<arno11> yep and only linked on my openai account atm
<freemangordon> arno11: do you remember where *exactly* are those files created?
<freemangordon> in $HOME or $HOME/.cache?
<arno11> i really don't remember
<arno11> asking assistant...
<freemangordon> I already asked :)
<freemangordon> seems we don;t have the issue anymore
<freemangordon> maybe it has to be qml application, lemme try
<freemangordon> ugh, somebody writes "unrelated ClientMessage received, type:..." every second in .xsession-errors
<arno11> @no issue anymore, ok
<freemangordon> no,wait
<freemangordon> ./.cache/mesa_shader_cache/00/ CREATE 41e2480e8932b8b80dd4a5dce4a66574d52cf6.tmp
<freemangordon> this is what qml does
<freemangordon> or conversations
<freemangordon> well, doing strace -p on miner pid
<freemangordon> seems miner does not behave on files created in .cache, but that's with .nomedia
<freemangordon> lemme remove and retry
<arno11> (meaning .nomedia works very well lol)
<freemangordon> the same without it
<freemangordon> miner process does not wake on files created in .cache
<arno11> ah ok interesting
<freemangordon> mhm
<freemangordon> so maybe that issue was fixed
<freemangordon> lemme try to find who fills .xsession-errors
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<freemangordon> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforminputcontexts/libhimplatforminputcontextplugin.so
<freemangordon> Wizzup: ^^^
<freemangordon> this binary contains "unrelated ClientMessage received"
<freemangordon> dsc_: please have a look ^^^
<freemangordon> this gets logged every second
<freemangordon> but that also means somethign happens every second
<arno11> wow
<Wizzup> home is not recursively indexed
<Wizzup> freemangordon: yes that is my code, we'll check what is sending this, but it's not likely us sending the client message
<freemangordon> sure, but someone is doing it
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: openmediaplayer : Depends: libhildon-thumbnail0 (>= 3.1.3+m7.1) but 3.1.3+4m7 is to be installed
<Wizzup> where is this?
<freemangordon> daedalus VM
<Wizzup> freemangordon: btw if you have some time later today or this weekend, I would appreciate some help with the segfault on rtcom
<freemangordon> sure
<Wizzup> freemangordon: what are the apt preferences.d
<Wizzup> do you have:
<Wizzup> $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/pin-daedalus-extras
<Wizzup> Package: *
<Wizzup> Pin: release o=Maemo Leste Extras,n=daedalus
<Wizzup> Pin-Priority: 1001
<Wizzup> as well as:
<Wizzup> $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/pin-daedalus
<Wizzup> Pin: release o=Maemo Leste,n=daedalus
<Wizzup> Pin-Priority: 1001
<Wizzup> Package: *
<freemangordon> no, but some package shall install that, no?
<freemangordon> I have cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/daedalus.pref
<freemangordon> Package: *
<freemangordon> Pin-Priority: 1000
<freemangordon> Pin: origin "https://maedevu.maemo.org/leste"
<freemangordon> but despite, "openmediaplayer : Depends: libhildon-thumbnail0 (>= 3.1.3+m7.1) but 3.1.3+4m7 is to be installed"
<freemangordon> oh, wait
<freemangordon> I forgot to change HAM repos
<freemangordon> Wizzup: I think those apt preferences shall come from leste-config or meta package
<Wizzup> yes, I think so
<Wizzup> I only figured them out yesterday
<Wizzup> freemangordon: but you also need to have the preferences for extras
<freemangordon> why is that?
<freemangordon> for the upgrade?
<Wizzup> because the extras are tagged the same way
<freemangordon> ok
<Wizzup> and you want them to be upgraded too
<freemangordon> mhm
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<freemangordon> have to run, ttyl
<Wizzup> btw, on the rtcom issue, I already have an excalibur vm set up for armhf
<Wizzup> ttyl
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<arno11> Wizzup: btw if you have been able to build a n900 img locally, could you share it temporary on the web ?
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<Wizzup> yeah I will, but I'd like to figure out the CI issue first
<Wizzup> I haven't built it locally yet
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: re: leste config and apt preferences, do we add those to leste-config for chimaera and daedalus?
<Wizzup> I think the gconf2 trigger issue we have to solve as well before we suggest people dist upgrade
<dsc_> freemangordon: "unrelated ClientMessage received, type: %u\n", event_message->type
<dsc_> what type?
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<dsc_> well doesnt matter, its a debug print, ill remove it
<dsc_> XCB event each second could be normal
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<dsc_> building new version
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<freemangordon> dsc_: wait, WTYM "XCB event each second could be normal"?
<freemangordon> this happens even with locked screen
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<freemangordon> ok, seems that's VBoxClient :)
<freemangordon> Wizzup: yes, gconf issue should be solved first
<dsc_> freemangordon: see :)
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<arno11> Wizzup: ok @CI
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: I wonder what the easiest way is to reproduce the gconf problem
<Wizzup> I am trying to apt install --reinstall some pkgs with gconf2, dbus, and some files with schemes in it but it's not erroring
<freemangordon> Wizzup: sorry, will have a look tomorrow
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<Wizzup> sure
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