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<inky>
i think i have heard that seat is a systemd feature, one computer may have two users on different seats. with different monitors and mice.
<inky>
i guess devuan made libseat for compatibility without systemd.
<inky>
we won't have seats with phones.
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<sicelo>
of course you do have seats, even if there's only one.
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<sicelo>
inky: and, for completeness, you can already see a seat on your Leste device if you do `loginctl list-seats`
<freemangordon>
;)
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<mkf>
i've got scammed, my n900 lacks seats >:(
<mkf>
where should i sit now
<sicelo>
be a witch, and sit mid-air, on a broom :-D
<mkf>
are brooms included with leste?
<freemangordon>
there are 3 questions you'd better not ask when a Bulgarian is around ;)
<mkf>
:D
<freemangordon>
"where should I seat" being one of them :D
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<sicelo>
heh, why is that?
<mkf>
btw have anyone ran eka2l on leste?
<mkf>
just for nostaligia that may work.
<freemangordon>
sicelo: no time now, but will explain later on. But basically you will get an unpolite answer (a swear).
<sicelo>
:-P
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<Wizzup>
freemangordon: semi crazy idea, we could make an upgrade package for chimaera similar to the cssu OTA updates for daedalus if we want to
<Wizzup>
we'd put in only in extras-testing in case folks want to try it
<freemangordon>
why not
<Wizzup>
would be fun/cute
<Wizzup>
it will require a bit more effort, we might have to really tackle the gconf2 configure issue that pops up some times and we might need to further ham-ify some of our pkgs
<Wizzup>
but maybe we can make hildon-meta and hildon-meta-core h-a-m pkgs
<Wizzup>
that's different from the OTA special mode though I guess
<Wizzup>
but could be fun
<mkf>
nice
<Wizzup>
btw, I will get qt-input-maemo in meta now for chimaera as well
<Wizzup>
it works great with latest jib on device without keyboard
<Wizzup>
nice work dsc
<mkf>
are you preparing for a new release?
<Wizzup>
not sure what that means but the answer is probably yes
<Wizzup>
we're kind of 'rolling' in the sense that we're continually making changes, but we're also preparing to move to a new debian base
<Wizzup>
this would then also allow us to notify users of system updates without making every single of our packages a part of the system, but I don't know if that means that we'll have to verion all the hildon-meta deps so force upgrades of our pkgs
<mkf>
could you also add n900 fixes please?
<Wizzup>
which ones?
<Wizzup>
ah for perf?
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<mkf>
idk arno said here i should wait for next update
<mkf>
so i just reminded.
<mkf>
it's very very slow atm, not sure how you guys use it. :)
<Wizzup>
n900 is really old hw - I use it with cpu overclock as on wiki
<Wizzup>
and scaling min freq set to 500mhz
<mkf>
it is old, but still.
<mkf>
i mean i read here and there leste used to outperform frametle in terms of snappiness
<Wizzup>
I think we've gotten more snappy yeah
<Wizzup>
back in a bit
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<arno11>
mkf: there is no perf fixes for n900. just the fact that things are very buggy from a fresh install with recent imgs.
<arno11>
again, if things are very very slow, something is really wrong: what kind of sdcard do you use btw ?
<arno11>
and yes i can confirm that leste n900 is 'smoother' and better @multitasks than fremantle (with stock freqs and few tweaks)
<arno11>
i only use overclock for 3D games, sometimes for 2g buggy calls and telegram calls/audio msgs
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<Wizzup>
how do you make telegram calls? using td desktop?
<arno11>
yes :) encrypted
<arno11>
telegram desktop needs a proper audio conf file btw
<Wizzup>
right, doesnt use too much ram?
<arno11>
it uses lot of swap
<Wizzup>
heh
<Wizzup>
yeah
<arno11>
but with no real troubles with fast u3
<arno11>
(around 250MB of swap)
<Wizzup>
not too bad
<Wizzup>
native maemo theme?
<arno11>
yes
<Wizzup>
cool, make some screenshots or videos sometime, for the news post :)
<arno11>
yes that's the plan :)
<arno11>
once chat chatgpt stuff is ready :P
<arno11>
btw leste assistant works with pidgin !
<arno11>
today i'll try to get it working with conversations using mctool
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<arno11>
but i need to figure out the proper parameters to add (seems the api key is the only thing needed)
<arno11>
dsc_: ^^^
<Wizzup>
using haze?
<arno11>
yes
<Wizzup>
I think it should support arbitrary pidgin config keys
<Wizzup>
and then a rtcom account plugin ui
<Wizzup>
:D
<arno11>
yep
<dsc_>
hi
<arno11>
hi
<dsc_>
i can help with this
<arno11>
cool :)
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<arno11>
bbl
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<mkf>
arno: a1 u1, i have a a1, u1 as well if that helps
<mkf>
*u3 as well if that helps
<arno11>
try u3, honestly
<arno11>
(even some u3 are bad btw, not a question of overall sd card speed but rather small blocks r/w perfs)
<arno11>
(with our old n900 sd bus)
<inky>
but our conversations are purple based? i thought tp based.
<inky>
arno11, yes i want to try it with pidgin, i always use it.
<inky>
so can you push everything and even before you package it for leste, i.could try it wihh pidgin? if you have instructions/makefile to build purple plugin?
<arno11>
tp haze allows us to use purple
<inky>
will check it out. so it would be gceat if that's also documented in ceadme or somewhere.
<inky>
readme*
<arno11>
i mean there are 2 different things: maemo-gpt app (ready @80% before packaging) and another completely different thing: leste assistant, which is an assistant linked to my account and directly usable with pidgin chatgpt plugin
<arno11>
should be on wiki, yes but need more spare time :P
<inky>
pidgin has chatgpt plugin already?
<arno11>
yes
<inky>
i can just add an api key and use it?
<arno11>
yes
<inky>
maemo-gpt is an app, not a conversations plugin?
<arno11>
github.com/EionRobb/pidgin-chatgpt
<inky>
ty!
<arno11>
maemo-gpt is my own app
<arno11>
i ll share it soon in extras
<inky>
so separate app, not integrated with conversations. k thought we could use it from conversations app.
<inky>
from address book
<inky>
and what is leste assistant? i think we dont want to use your account. we want to be able to add our api keys.
<arno11>
well, that s what we were talking about: adding the pidgin plugin to conversations to be able to use leste assistant (based on irc leste logs)
<arno11>
you can use your ap key ofc
<arno11>
but you need to create the proper assistant from openai api website
<arno11>
(if you use your own api key)
<arno11>
i can share with you the process to create a working leste assistant, no problem btw
<arno11>
but later :P
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<mkf>
arno: oh btw do you use telegram on mapphones or n900?
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<arno11>
mkf: on n900, i don't have any mapphone
<arno11>
for the record (and for leste assistant :P), telegram desktop needs /.config/alsoft.conf with:
<Wizzup>
apparently for git blame you can't even add --full-history
<Wizzup>
what..
<Wizzup>
I guess 'alias git-rlog=git log --sparse' or something
<Wizzup>
:)
<freemangordon>
well, I guess it does not make any difference if we faind why it was broken
<freemangordon>
*find
<freemangordon>
actually upstream does not have the commits
<freemangordon>
but, I wonder why did they decided the only bus around is pci
<freemangordon>
*decide
<dsc_>
arno11: i have limited idea what you're doing atm, could you link me to the repository of the contact manager in question?
<arno11>
dsc_: to resume, i have leste assistant (based on irc logs) working in both pidgin and my maemo-gpt app. i added the gpt plugin to conversations using mc-tool. it works and i m able to go online and receive a bot msg (like in pidgin). Assistants appear as buddy in leste contacts and i m able to send messages but with no answers
<dsc_>
arno11: do you have links to code? :D
<dsc_>
any link really, for context
<arno11>
yep. github.com/EionRobb/pidgin-chatgpt
<arno11>
the plugin works only with assistant feature from openai, which is what we need for conversations
<dsc_>
ok so libpurple plugin thing
<arno11>
yes
<dsc_>
it exposes 1 contact?
<dsc_>
and when you type to it
<dsc_>
it does nothing
<dsc_>
does the message appear in the chatwindow?
<arno11>
yes, well, all assistants from the account linked to the api key appear in contact list
<arno11>
msgs appear in chat window
<arno11>
but only sent msgs
<dsc_>
i dont really know what an assisant is
<dsc_>
its just a contact, yeah?
<dsc_>
or
<arno11>
nope
<dsc_>
these are individual chatgpt conversation threads?
<arno11>
yes
<dsc_>
and you expect them to be individual contacts in conversations
<dsc_>
is this the case in pidgin?
<arno11>
it is the case in pidgin AND conversations
<arno11>
i mean everything seems to work
<dsc_>
ah ok
<dsc_>
does the message appear in the chatwindow?
<arno11>
but msgs are not sent
<dsc_>
after clicking Send
<arno11>
yes, and i'm able to check from my app or the website (no msg sent)
<dsc_>
ok
<dsc_>
could you paste ~/.config/conversations/state.json
<dsc_>
you might need to scrub some private info from there
<dsc_>
feel free to leave out unrelated entries
<arno11>
no problem but i have to go for a bit (kids)
<arno11>
thx for your help man
<dsc_>
kk
<dsc_>
one question, is this a paid feature @ chatgpt?
<arno11>
(yes but it is almost free of charge atm since assistant is a beta feature)
<arno11>
bbl
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: btw with git log -p --sparse --full-history config/udev.c
<Wizzup>
I can see the commits are there
<Wizzup>
just to confirm to myself :)
<mkf>
freemangordon: if android doesn't boot, there is no way to recover the fw, right?
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<freemangordon>
mkf: no need to boot, you can mount the FS and pull the module
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