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<freemangordon> Wizzup: what is missing so text input is crashing? sorry, was not following.
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: I need to investigate further but we've had reports that recent images had issues, both with locale and some things crashing
<Wizzup> cpa text applet being one
<Wizzup> I think the locale issues I fixed with going back to i386 qemu
<Wizzup> the cpa text applet not yet, I have to figure out why it crashes and see if there are some postinsts not running when they should, etc
<Wizzup> inky reported that making some file/dir in .config made the crash go away
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<sicelo> i guess this would affect D4 as well, or D4 doesn't have SPI devices?
<Wizzup> probably, yes, I think when we get to 6.13 we'll have to fix already then :)
<Wizzup> sicelo: also, great work
<Wizzup> 13:43 < inky> folks, freemangordon, Wizzup, I think i figured out why 'inputmethod' applet of settings crashes: because /home/user/.gconf/apps/osso/inputmethod only contains one file: %gconf.xml. but on old installation where it works, it contans 'hildon-im-languages' directory with lots of xml files.
<Wizzup> freemangordon: ^
<freemangordon> this means dh_gconf fails
<freemangordon> or gconf is installed after inputmethod
<freemangordon> so the trigger is not there
<Wizzup> hmm
<Wizzup> I don't -think- we pull from backports though
<freemangordon> well, that's my understanding
<freemangordon> might be something else
<Wizzup> there is an error about gconf having issues with dbus autostart, but I do not know if that is relevant
<Wizzup> we haven't changed osso-applet-textinput since 2018 :)
<Wizzup> I think..
<freemangordon> well, if it is only inputmethod that's affected, it must be soemthing else
<Wizzup> I'll check
<freemangordon> anyway, have to tun now
<Wizzup> ttyl
<freemangordon> ttyl
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: when you're back, this is made by the configurator?
<Wizzup> yeah /home/user/.gconf/apps/osso is quite empty
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<Wizzup> why is this giving us trouble now :/
<Wizzup> it does look like most files are in /usr/share/gconf/schemas
<Wizzup> but two are in /etc/gconf/schemas: hildon-input-method-configuraton.schema and hildon-control-panel.schemas
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: oh,ok, I'll have a lok
<Wizzup> the latest d4 image has the issue
<Wizzup> well, it has -fewer- issues, but still has the gconf issue
<Wizzup> for the text input applet
<freemangordon> ok, will fix it
<Wizzup> freemangordon: that file does exist I think
<Wizzup> oh it removes it?
<freemangordon> well, it re-creates it
<Wizzup> ah, but the trigger doesn't run because it is in /etc ?
<freemangordon> but it calls gconf-2
<Wizzup> hm
<freemangordon> that can;t work in image build
<freemangordon> but, on first boot should work
<freemangordon> lemme check who was calling it
<freemangordon> hmm, why it calls configurator as root?
<freemangordon> that might be the problem
<Wizzup> hm, I think we've always called it as root so far
<Wizzup> if it replaces /etc/gconf it also will have to run as root
<freemangordon> not sure what it replaces
<freemangordon> yes, it replaces in /etc
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: so, did you boot the latest image?
<Wizzup> the one I linked? yes
<freemangordon> and text input crashes control panel?
<Wizzup> yes
<freemangordon> hmm
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<freemangordon> hmm, wait
<freemangordon> vs
<freemangordon> would that -i make issues?
<Wizzup> I am not sure, but...
<Wizzup> one thing that is not clear to me why it would work before and does not now
<Wizzup> so I am not sure the problem is the -i
<freemangordon> hmm...
<freemangordon> what is the content of /etc/default/keyboard ?
<Wizzup> I will have to re-dd, since I ran some commands on it, including configurator
<freemangordon> should not be changed
<Wizzup> ok
<freemangordon> what it is now?
<Wizzup> booting it up
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<Wizzup> do you need the full contents?
<freemangordon> no, just the model
<Wizzup> it says XKBMODEL="motoroladroid4"
<Wizzup> XKBLAYOUT="us"
<Wizzup> BACKSPACE="guess"
<Wizzup> XCBVARIANT and XKBOPTIONS are empty
<freemangordon> ok
<freemangordon> Wizzup: who sets that
<freemangordon> ?
<Wizzup> let me see
<Wizzup> leste-config
<freemangordon> is it possible this is not set by the time the package is configured?
<Wizzup> leste-config-mapphone/etc/default/keyboard.leste:XKBMODEL="motoroladroid4"
<Wizzup> leste-config-mapphone/etc/default/keyboard.leste:XKBLAYOUT="us"
<Wizzup> maybe
<Wizzup> what package do you want me to un dpkg-reconfigure on to test?
<Wizzup> run
<freemangordon> just run sudo -i /usr/bin/hildon-input-method-configurator
<freemangordon> hmm, wait
<freemangordon> reconfigure hildon-input-method-configurator
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<Wizzup> just run it
<Wizzup> anything to check now?
<freemangordon> text input in cpl
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<Wizzup> still crashes
<freemangordon> delete /mnt/VM/home/user/.gconf/apps/osso/inputmethod
<freemangordon> oops
<freemangordon> delete /home/user/.gconf/apps/osso/inputmethod
<freemangordon> and then re-run it
<Wizzup> still crashes
<Wizzup> with dpkg-reconfigure hildon-input-method-configurator
<Wizzup> and before that, rm -rf /home/user/.gconf/apps/osso/inputmethod
<Wizzup> maybe gconf needs restart?
<freemangordon> not sure
<freemangordon> I was able to fix it here in the VM, somehow
<freemangordon> lemme see what exactly is needed
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> I have go to out for some bureaucracy, back later
<freemangordon> ok
<dsc_> sounds like a french meal, bon apetite
<inky> freemangordon, i mentioned why it crashes, i synced a directory with xml files for each language from d4 and it works now.
<freemangordon> inky: it is clear why it crashes, what is not clear is why gconf schema is not properly created
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: so like I said, two files are in /etc/gconf
<Wizzup> the rest are in /usr/share/gconf
<Wizzup> I think the configurator one is in /etc instead of /usr/share
<freemangordon> Wizzup: undeerstand, but that's not the issue
<Wizzup> is it not?
<Wizzup> ok
<freemangordon> no, it is not
<Wizzup> bbl :)
<freemangordon> later
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<arno11> sicelo: cool @kernel
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<arno11> mcspi...again
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<sicelo> the evil child :-D
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<arno11> yes indeed
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: if you mount d4 image, you will see in /etc/gconf/schemas/hildon-input-method-configuration.schema that int_kb_model is pc105
<freemangordon> to me this means schema was created before keyboard was set in /etc/default
<freemangordon> if you look in hildon-input-method-configurator_0.1.8-1+0m5_armel.deb (this is fremantle one), its postinst file only installs xsession file
<freemangordon> so, I am going to drop that patch
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> we can have the package have a runtime dep on leste-config ?
<freemangordon> no need
<freemangordon> as it will confifure the kbd on first boot
<freemangordon> (in theory)
<freemangordon> I will test that here first
<Wizzup> ok
<freemangordon> at least here works properly
<freemangordon> going to push
<freemangordon> will fix controlpanel too
<Wizzup> ty :)
<Wizzup> I will build a new image
<Wizzup> well, we can do it from jenkins
<freemangordon> sec
<freemangordon> have to rebuild cpl
<freemangordon> wait, I am sure I removed that file
* freemangordon checks
<freemangordon> ugh:
<freemangordon> dpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file debian/postinst
<freemangordon> dpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file debian/compat
<freemangordon> ok, needs new tag it seems
<freemangordon> Wizzup: "while there already is the stricly newer '1:2.2.30-1+m7' in there."
<freemangordon> this is for cpl
<freemangordon> hmm, lemme try something
<Wizzup> still need my help?
<freemangordon> no
<freemangordon> I think everything is ready
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> I'll build another img
<freemangordon> right
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: ugh
<freemangordon> hildon-control-panel : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34) but 2.31-13+deb11u11 is to be installed
<freemangordon> why daedalus packages are visible in chimaera?
<freemangordon> Candidate: 1:2.2.30-2+4m7
<freemangordon> abort thr image
<freemangordon> lemme rebuild chimaera cpl
<freemangordon> note to myself - do not build multiple packages in CI in parallel
<freemangordon> Wizzup: "qt-input-maemo : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-15-2 but it is not installable"
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<freemangordon> do I need backports?
<freemangordon> what a mess :)
<freemangordon> Error: trying to put version '1:2.2.30-2+3m7' of 'hildon-control-panel-dbgsym' in 'chimaera|main|arm64', while there already is the stricly newer '1:2.2.30-2+4m7' in there.
<freemangordon> Wizzup: please fix that
<Wizzup> hi
<Wizzup> freemangordon: they are not, but the src packages might be?
<Wizzup> aborted the image build
<freemangordon> sorry, can't parse
<Wizzup> I am also trying to parse
<freemangordon> "Error: trying to put version '1:2.2.30-2+3m7' of 'hildon-control-panel-dbgsym' in 'chimaera|main|arm64', while there already is the stricly newer '1:2.2.30-2+4m7' in there."
<freemangordon> somehow chimaera and daedalus packages got mixed
<Wizzup> very strange
<Wizzup> I will removesrc hildon-control-panel
<Wizzup> and the nbuild both
<Wizzup> ok, all set, try again, but one at a time?
<freemangordon> you removed both src and binaries?
<Wizzup> removesrc does both yes
<Wizzup> AFAIK
<freemangordon> ah, ok, didn't know that command
<Wizzup> it's in the jenkins user history
<Wizzup> you also have to rsync afterwards
<freemangordon> while we are waiting:
<freemangordon> "qt-input-maemo : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-15-2 but it is not installable" is when I try to dist-upgrade on my daedalus VM
<Wizzup> this is probably on me
<freemangordon> that's why I asked if I shall enable backports
<Wizzup> no, we just need to change the control file
<Wizzup> apt search qtbase-abi-5
<Wizzup> and see what it needs to be
<Wizzup> althoug wiat, I am a bit surprised that is listed
<freemangordon> apt search qtbase-abi-5 finds nothing
<freemangordon> Wizzup: seems the same issue for hildon-input-method-configurator
<freemangordon> please remove the one from chimaera
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> done
<freemangordon> thanks
<Wizzup> on qt-input-maemo in daedalus, I am not sure how that qtbase-abi pkg got inserted
<Wizzup> let me start my vm
<freemangordon> shlibs-depends?
<Wizzup> checking now
<Wizzup> let me know when to build anothe rimage
<Wizzup> freemangordon: hm for me apt upgrade on daedalus is without probem
<Wizzup> problem
<freemangordon> try to insstall hildon-input-meta
<freemangordon> *install
<freemangordon> ok, seems you can try to build an image
<freemangordon> sudo apt install hildon-input-meta
<freemangordon> this^^ on daedalus
<Wizzup> freemangordon: ok I see it
<Wizzup> maybe it is the shlinks:Depends but it's still strnage
<freemangordon> that's chimaera, right?
<Wizzup> the image link is, yes
<freemangordon> maybe a repo is enabled in CI we don;t have on the device
<Wizzup> could be, but not likely
<freemangordon> Wizzup: when I build it on the VM it depends on qtbase-abi-5-15-8 and installs happily
<freemangordon> oh
<freemangordon> it depends on qtbase5-private-dev
<Wizzup> yeah that probably expands
<freemangordon> but why CI uses 5.15.2?
<Wizzup> hmm
<Wizzup> maybe we need to rebuild this or something, I don't know if I built this for daedalus
<freemangordon> according to apt-cache it is:
<freemangordon> 500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packages
<freemangordon> ah
<Wizzup> I don't think we have it
<Wizzup> let me build it
<freemangordon> I see
<Wizzup> freemangordon: should work now
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<freemangordon> yep
<freemangordon> not that it 'works', but at least installs :)w
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<freemangordon> yeah, nothing happens, at least in qualendar
<freemangordon> *qalendar
<Wizzup> you need to reboot
<freemangordon> did
<freemangordon> does not work in chimaera either
<Wizzup> is this d4 or vm, or?
<Wizzup> let me try
<freemangordon> VM
<Wizzup> I might have forgotten the leste-cofnig change
<Wizzup> what is /etc/profile/qt-maemo.sh
<Wizzup> does it set the IM env var?
<freemangordon> set | grep IM produces nothing relevant
<Wizzup> env|grep him
<Wizzup> ok
<freemangordon> him or HIM ?
<Wizzup> leste-config needs update
<Wizzup> see /etc/profile.d/qt-maemo.sh
<Wizzup> you just need to uncomment one line
<freemangordon> I'll wait for the upgrade
<Wizzup> h, ha, th src build failed
<Wizzup> let me push tag
<Wizzup> that explains it
<freemangordon> :)
<freemangordon> ok, have to run, ttyl
<Wizzup> ttyl!
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<kiva> Should there be little news in https://maemo-leste.github.io/category/news.html something like: "New year 2025 sd-card images available for N900, Droid 4 and Pinephone."
<kiva> btw. what kernel version they have?
<Wizzup> no, the images aren't ready yet
<Wizzup> we have a lot of really big changes ready, but we'll make a news post about them soonish
<kiva> ok..thanks for info.
<Wizzup> yeah
<Wizzup> :)
<Wizzup> freemangordon:
<Wizzup> X11
<Wizzup> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/gconf/schemas/hildon-control-panel.schemas"
<Wizzup> Failed to open `/etc/gconf/schemas/hildon-control-panel.schemas': No such file or directory
<Wizzup> dpkg: error processing package hildon-control-panel:armhf (--configure):
<kiva> I tested quite rare Sony VGB-KBC1 USB foldable keyboard with mouse stick with Pinephone and it works, execept: volume mute, and volume buttons are reserved and japanese kanji shift. I write this with it/
<Wizzup> :)
<kiva> Impressive is that keyboard, when it is folded it is about same size as Pinephone with Pinephone keyboard.
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<sicelo> still a surprising number of hackers rocking N900 to date. https://fosstodon.org/@dcz/113865705505008276
<sicelo> (ex?)-maintainer/developer for the virtual keyboard used on Phosh
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: hmm...
<freemangordon> will look at it tomorrow
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