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<freemangordon> Wizzup: hmm, I think we made a mistaker
<freemangordon> we shouldn't have changed gconf, but debhelper (or some other package) instead
<freemangordon> /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/root_sequence.pm:[14, 'dh_gconf'],
<freemangordon> this is on daedalus
<freemangordon> so, we just need to find a way to install dh_gconf
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<freemangordon> as it not also moves files, but also adds gconf2 dependency to the package
<freemangordon> maybe we shall just fork debhelper and do partial revert of b4cbfe7d2fd4f1e428500f6de1b2a65d21673ae1
<freemangordon> instead of forking gconf
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: I was hoping to avoid forking debhelper
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<freemangordon> then maybe we can add dh_gconf to maemo-system-services-dev
<freemangordon> but, who will invoke it?
<freemangordon> we will have to edit all the packages
<freemangordon> again
<Wizzup> why can't we go with our fix from yesterday
<Wizzup> if all it is a depend on gconf, that should be easy
<Wizzup> or does this interfere with our build process as well
<freemangordon> I think it *might* interfere with image building, like, if gconf is not installed)or configure, not sure) before a $package is installed, then gconf trigger will not be executed
<freemangordon> well, maybe you can tweak image building to install gconf first
<freemangordon> or, add gconf as pre-depends on some of the meta packages
<Wizzup> all of it kinda sucks
<freemangordon> I know
<Wizzup> so the line you shared, doesn't that already invoke dh_gconf?
<freemangordon> lemme check what it exactly does
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<freemangordon> no, it will not
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> sorry, I have to go for the next hour or so, back later
<Wizzup> I'm also fine with forking dh
<freemangordon> ok
<Wizzup> whatever makes this less painful
<freemangordon> I think that will be easiest
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<Wizzup> btw, if we do that we might as well go straight to trixie ande just build gconf for it, no?
<Wizzup> I guess maybe that is a bit too ambitious currently
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: so I should hold off on fixing all our gconf pkgs?
<Wizzup> I don't know quite what know debhelper to build
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<sicelo> starts to look like the gconf->gsettings transition needs to start pretty soon
<Wizzup> if you have a few spare months :)
<Wizzup> I did a quick search and it looks like about 90 pkgs uses gconf
<Wizzup> and we also use gconf in a way that gsettings doesn't like - writing to keys outside of schemas, we'd have to mark some keys differently I tihnk
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: with your recent wifi change, does the wifi actually ever disconnect?
<uvos__> the schemas are also all in reverse
<uvos__> or at least many
<uvos__> reading or writeing a gsettings key for witch no schema exits is an error, but in maemo the settings program's applet owns all the schemas
<uvos__> so mce will crash with an assert if not every settings applet is installed
<uvos__> same thing for all maemo services
<uvos__> this creates a bunch of dependancy loops, since the services require the applets that require the services
<uvos__> really the schemas need to be owned by the services
<Wizzup> yes
<Wizzup> which means it'll be a significant undertaking :D
<uvos__> yeah
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<inky> when i run install.sh from bionic-clown-boot repo (root404.sh is successful) i get permission denied messages
<inky> adb: error: failed to copy 'scripts/kexebootstart.sh' to '/sdcard/kexebootstart.sh': remote Permission denied
<inky> like this
<inky> when i enter recovery, the manual says to enter recovery and
<inky> >select wipe data/factory reset
<inky> i just see that laying android photo with ! and opened belly.
<inky> i cannot wipe data/reset. but i did it from android, factory reset.
<inky> i also restored everything by flashing the stock system.img
<uvos__> inky: you have to press both vol up and vol down at the same time for the menu to pop up over the dead android
<uvos__> you may have to have a (fat32 formated, visible in android) sdcard inserted for it to work i dont remember that detail
<uvos__> you also have to reboot between rooting and installin
<uvos__> g
<uvos__> if you reflashed system you also have to reroot
<inky> will write, have to deviate...
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<utilisateur> cc cv
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<Wizzup> someone is adding Tamil translation to our pkgs :)
<Wizzup> freemangordon: lmk what you want reverted in debhelper and I can do it
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<sicelo> Wizzup: maybe create an issue on GH listing those gconf pkgs. whenever someone has a spare moment, they could have a look
<sicelo> perhaps it's possible to work on one (or a few) packages at a time. no idea
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<Wizzup> I do not think it will be too easy
<Wizzup> many pkgs read/expect the same key
<Wizzup> freemangordon: genuinely wondering if we should not try for trixie if we will fork gconf and dh anyway
<Wizzup> we'd be ahead of the curve then
<sicelo> +1 to that ...
* sicelo hides
<sicelo> although trixie isn't released yet, but clearly won't be changing much until then
<Wizzup> I think we can finish daedalus/bookworm since we-re 95% there and almost all the work we do for it helps trixie too
<Wizzup> but let's then also work on trixie after
<sicelo> heh, bookworm is EOL mid-next year. Only just realized
<sicelo> anyway LTS will take it to 2028
<Wizzup> yeah
<Wizzup> doing daedalus/bookworm also allows for a dist upgrade path
<Wizzup> more easier one hopefully
<sicelo> btw migrating to trixie will also have the issue of usrmerge ... but i guess shouldn't bite us too hard
<freemangordon> do we want to spend time now migrating to gsettings?
<freemangordon> I don;t htink it will be that easy
<Wizzup> freemangordon: no, we'd build gconf for trixie
<Wizzup> :D
<freemangordon> oh
<freemangordon> no, please
<freemangordon> what is the issue of bringing dh_gconf back in debhelper?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: why 'no, please'?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: there is no issue with doing that
<Wizzup> but if we do that now, why not do it for trixie too
<Wizzup> otherwise, the moment we're ready, 2-3 months later, debian will stop supporting our base
<freemangordon> I am not sure what'd we do with mesa
<Wizzup> because of dri2? is that a problem already in trixie?
<freemangordon> don;t know
<Wizzup> btw, I did say let's finish daedalus first and then do excalibus/trixie
<freemangordon> ah, okm
<Wizzup> but I think we shouldn't wait, if we agree we can just build gconf
<Wizzup> and dh
<freemangordon> ok, that sounds more like a plan
<freemangordon> but, lets do daedalus first
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> so do you want me to find the commit in dh that removed gconf and revert it
<freemangordon> so, what we do now?
<freemangordon> the commit is ^^^
<Wizzup> I think we keep our gconf as well (why not), but then also build dh
<freemangordon> b4cbfe7d2fd4f1e428500f6de1b2a65d21673ae1
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<freemangordon> no need of gconf (for daedalus) if we build dh
<Wizzup> true, but we have it already
<Wizzup> and we'd have to build it for trixie anyway
<Wizzup> so I won't remove our upstream fork repo
<Wizzup> but we can remove it from daedalus if you like
<freemangordon> sure, but we don;t need the change
<Wizzup> ok
<freemangordon> yeah, remove it from daedalus and revert that change
<Wizzup> gconf is gone from daedalus
<Wizzup> revert that change = build dh with that commit reverted?
<freemangordon> you can't just revert it, there is conflict because of the translations
<freemangordon> anyway yes, build dh with that commit revertied and conflicts fixed
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> freemangordon: he already removed a tag for regular bookworm
<Wizzup> shall we build bookworm backports, or how do I find 13.11.4
<Wizzup> oh no
<Wizzup> it is there
<Wizzup> gitlab just lies
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<freemangordon> the tag is there
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<Wizzup> ok?
<freemangordon> looks like, yes
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<sicelo> worked pretty good, and perhaps could be used in Leste too. it's a kernel patch which is fine since we roll our own kernel anyway. benefit is - mce & upower need no further intelligence.
<Wizzup> >dh: error: The addon 14 claimed that dh_gconf was obsolete, but it is not!?
<Wizzup> lol
<Wizzup> ah I see
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: the debhelper stuff should be in place
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