00:24 <angle> kisslinux.org is still infected with js tracking too.

01:24 <midfavila> yeah theres that ad for like

01:24 <midfavila> karaoke software or something

01:24 <midfavila> lmao

01:30 <midfavila> i have to wonder why they went after kisslinux.org specifically

01:41 <midfavila> speaking of ads, man, protonmail has gone down the shitter over the past year or so really fast

01:41 <midfavila> every time i log in i get hit with 3-4 "upgrade now" ads

04:12 <midfavila> alright there got my fork ported

04:12 <midfavila> binutils is still being finnicky but everything else is solid

06:45 <Doomking> sewm: I actually did that using the kernel command line in the linux kernel along with efibootmgr copying vmlinuz to /boot/efi/bootx64.efi

06:45 <Doomking> but i'm going to try out sad_plan way with adding the boot entry via uefi menu

06:46 <Doomking> technically i could cp bzImage as well to bootx64.efi as both are the same thing but just different name

07:16 <sewn> Doomking: efibootmgr doesn't copy anything for you

07:16 <sewn> it simply creates an EFI entry

07:16 <sewn> if your kernel is already at a bootloaders location ($esp/efi/bootx64.efi) no entry is needed and the bios will boot it automatically

07:18 <angle> midfavila: I say this because I care about you.

07:19 <angle> leave proton asap.

07:19 <angle> unless you wanna deal with years of your personal emails being locked up behind protonmail bridge when you start using an epic email client.

07:21 <sewn> angle: what's wrong with proton?

07:21 <sewn> I want a company handling my emails for years to come, and a company I know can't go down

07:22 <sewn> self-hosting or vps was cool but uptime + I'm not living in my house forever + maintenance

07:22 <angle> even google or yahoo is more open than proton is with accessing your emails from something other than webmail or a trash android client.

07:22 <angle> you can pick a nice, stable provider that gives you privacy.

07:22 <sewn> so I should go back to google?!

07:23 <angle> no, I just mean proton is uniquely evil.

07:23 <angle> I have all my old gmail emails from when I was a kid easily accessible through my email client and my own filesystem.

07:23 <angle> proton and tutanova lock you out.

07:24 <angle> use fastmail or migadu or purelymail or whoever else if you wanna support the little guy that doesn't spy on you.

07:24 <sewn> I dont feel like paying a lot of money per month just to have emails

07:24 <angle> but proton is a massive company that spies on you too but also buts up a really weird technical wall between you and your data.

07:26 <angle> sewn: then don't pay and use disroot like you already do. use fastmail's free plan or purelymail's $10/year plan.

07:26 <sewn> I can't really trust disroot with my government and banking can i

07:27 <angle> no, but you can't even with proton either.

07:27 <angle> any company can go under.

07:27 <angle> so use your own domain if you really wanna keep things safe.

07:30 <sewn> aaaggghhhh

07:31 <sewn> angle: proton is funded by a corporation while disroot is funded by the community

07:33 <angle> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39322173

07:34 <angle> another privacy focused email company that got bought out and is sunsetting its email services.

07:34 <angle> the only guaranteed safe option is to use your own domain for your email.

07:35 <angle> so you can switch providers without losing the email you have.

07:35 <angle> someone from my local pc store emailed me recently, so I ran `dig MX <domain.tld>` on them.

07:36 <angle> and their server wasn't gmail or outlook or something evil! it was their own server they were running! I got so excited and was thinking they were running opensmtpd or something.

07:37 <angle> ...till I checked their site and saw they were runnig this:

07:37 <angle> https://www.mailsite.com/

07:38 <angle> a godless, proprietary email server program run by a blackberry subsidiary.

07:38 <angle> but it was still cool to see a pre-gmail relic of proprietary windows email programs out in the wild.

07:38 <angle> kinda unrelated, but it's cool to share.

07:39 <angle> anyways, aerc email program was the thing that pilled me against proton, so check that out if you wanna see how cool email can really be.

07:43 <sewn> angle: I dont really need SMTP for proton tnh

07:44 <sewn> its only because I dont use proton for many things, only personal accoumts

08:02 <sad_plan> angle midfavila phoebos ok, I belive you, but then do i still get pointed to dylans site? faulty dns records?

08:03 <sad_plan> s/then/then why/

08:20 <phoebos> do you mean why does the content look the same? or are you redirected to kisslinux.github.io?

08:21 <phoebos> there's no CNAME record

08:42 <Doomking> sewn: so i just need to copy bzImage over to $esp/efi/bootx64.efi and it should automatically boot? i guess i never tried that, i ran the efibootmgr command and assumed that was what allowed me to boot in

08:42 <sewn> Doomking: make sure you have the integrated cmdline

08:43 <Doomking> are you referring to the kernel cmdline right?

08:43 <sewn> he

08:43 <sewn> yea

08:43 <Doomking> oh okay, i was worry it was something else then i wouldn't know

08:44 <Doomking> sounds good

11:09 <sad_plan> phoebos: i end up at dylans site, not the ad site. theres no redirection that I can see

11:37 <phoebos> but what do you mean by dylan's site?

11:37 <phoebos> dylan's site is kisslinux.github.io

12:18 <sad_plan> i get kisslinux.org, but the content is dylans

12:24 <phoebos> yes, it looks similar, but notice there is javascript and a section advertising a "vocal remover" tool lol

12:26 <sad_plan> i noticed the js and cloudflare. didnt see the ad in a hurry. but ok, so things are still the same.

13:51 <sewn> sad_plan: can you really trust it if it has an ad in it?

14:03 <sad_plan> i didnt say that. use the official instead. more trustworthy. also no JS is best JS

19:28 <midfavila> angle: im just going to migrate my personal stuff to SDF

19:28 <midfavila> the cornerstore under my apartment has a crypto-ATM so im just gonna send some cash to membership and get ARPA status and then switch everything over