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<illiliti> testuser[m]12: could you make a PR for the solution that you proposed?
<illiliti> also there's no point to manually parse elf. we have readelf for that
<illiliti> and yes, default lib path can be other than /usr/lib
<illiliti> ioraff: config-tool that llvm uses is shit. i'd avoid it
<illiliti> adding special backend just for llvm is a fucking beyond sanity
<illiliti> therefore i think that adding simple pkgconfig file is a proper and sane solution
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<rohan> yo guys
<rohan> what happened with wayclip?
<rohan> i cant use in bemenu
<illiliti> log?
<rohan> i see now
<rohan> git-bruh removed the symlink
<rohan> thats why
<rohan> bemenu only works with wl-clipboard
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<ioraff> evidently meson did so because of llvm's lack of interest in shipping one
<illiliti> git-bruh did the right thing because wayclip isn't compatible with wl-clipboard. i suggest you to patch bemenu to add support for wayclip
<illiliti> meson is crap. instead of solving problems they implement workarounds
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<midfavila> is this the power of just ten more years of wayland development?
<illiliti> how wl-clipboard author's inability to write safe code is related to wayland development?
<midfavila> the implication is that clipboard access isn't a problem under X11
<midfavila> it's a joke
<midfavila> = w=
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<illiliti> i'm fine with how clipboard implemented in wayland. if bemenu unable to implement native access to clipboard instead of using cli tool, that's their problem
<illiliti> yep it's totally their failure
<illiliti> they even failed to implement x11 clipboard access
<testuser[m]12> illiliti: solution = resolve after installation? Or ignore rpath libs?
<testuser[m]12> Hi
<illiliti> the latter
<illiliti> hi
<illiliti> i'm not sure that resolving after installation is a good idea
<illiliti> however i have to admit, i haven't found obvious problems with it
<testuser[m]12> There's no problem apart from the new deps not being in tarball
<testuser[m]12> Which could be annoying if you decide to remove the package and extra dependency and kiss i the package again
<illiliti> i see
<illiliti> actually, i don't think we should do such radical change
<illiliti> so it's a kiss2 idea
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<vouivre> hello
<vouivre> I have a problem since firefox 104.0.1
<vouivre> The problem persists with firefox 104.0.2
<vouivre> does someone have one of those version on his system and make a test ?
<vouivre> I will give you the website which I can't access
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<vouivre> is it ok to raise an issue ? Or I could check something else ?
<ioraff> maybe see if firefox spits something useful out to stderr?
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<vouivre> if I start firefox from terminal, I get
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<vouivre> perhaps something related to javascript ?
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<vouivre> I'll try to revert the changes of
<vouivre> and see what happen
<vouivre> thanks!
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<testuser[m]12> vouivre: do u have some other distro to try it on?
<testuser[m]12> could be due to switching to system nss but I doubt it
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<testuser[m]12> loads fine fo rme
<testuser[m]12> hi
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<testuser[m]12> no
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<virutalmachineus> is it some random picture on the internet?
<testuser[m]12> no
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<vouivre> testuser[m]12: I have no other distro to test with
<vouivre> I have built firefox 104.0.2 and it works fine without the switch to nss system
<vouivre> I will make one last test: I'll take the build file and compile with "--without-system-nss/nspr"
<vouivre> I'll report if it works.
<testuser[m]12> but the site works fine for me with system nss
<testuser[m]12> (with vpn)
<vouivre> I don't understand why only one site doesn't work.
<testuser[m]12> did u try a vpn?
<vouivre> but the problem happened the first time with version 104.0.1
<vouivre> I have no vpn
<testuser[m]12> try with one
<vouivre> I don't know what to use. Can I use something online or do I have to install something ?
<testuser[m]12> wait leave that
<testuser[m]12> what does curl -Lv https://www.anibis.ch/ say?
<testuser[m]12> does it work on other devices ?
<vouivre> * Could not resolve host: www.anibis.ch
<vouivre> * Closing connection 0
<vouivre> curl: (6) Could not resolve host: www.anibis.ch
<vouivre> but with my compiled version of firefox I can access it
<testuser[m]12> then it's not a firefox issue
<testuser[m]12> curl is the baseline for any network stuff, there's probably something else at play
<testuser[m]12> did u try changing your dns server
<testuser[m]12> in /etc/resolv.conf
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<vouivre> no, but what I have to change exactly ?
<testuser[m]12> try any other nameserver temporarily
<testuser[m]12> echo nameserver 1.1.1.1 | ssu tee /etc/resolv.conf
<testuser[m]12> like 1.1.1.1
<vouivre> I have three lines with nameserver
<testuser[m]12> just add this one temporarily, those three are set by dhcpcd
<testuser[m]12> delete others
<testuser[m]12> or wait did u set those manually?
<vouivre> no, changed nothing in this file
<testuser[m]12> then u can just run tee
<vouivre> I switch to a firefox version which doesn't work
<vouivre> no, it doesn't work
<vouivre> but I can access other websites
<testuser[m]12> did u try the site on your phone
<testuser[m]12> it seems like an isp issue
<testuser[m]12> cuz even curl cant resolve it
<vouivre> hhhmm, do I have to restard dhcpcd after changing resolv.conf
<vouivre> ?
<vouivre> restart
<testuser[m]12> no
<testuser[m]12> it'll just overwrite those values
<testuser[m]12> resolv.conf changes are effective immeditately
<vouivre> on my phone there is no problem. But it doesn't use my network at home. I'll try with wifi.
<vouivre> no problem on my phone with only wifi
<testuser[m]12> can u make a hotspot from your phone and connect kiss to it
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<vouivre> I restarted my computer it didn't work, I don't know why
<vouivre> I have connected kiss to my hotspot and I can connect to the site!
<illiliti> it might be possible that your isp is tampering dns requests
<illiliti> like mine does, just to say
<illiliti> maybe your phone encrypts dns queries using e.g DoT
<illiliti> you phone is android?
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<testuser[m]12> Yea android has dot by default
<testuser[m]12> With poogle dns
<vouivre> yes. With custom rom, I don't know if it changes something
<illiliti> you could try to enable DoH support in firefox
<illiliti> or use dnscrypt
<vouivre> is dnscrypt something I have to package ?
<illiliti> no, it's packaged in community
<illiliti> dnscrypt-proxy
<illiliti> also you could use my dnscrypt(hare-dnscrypt), but i feel it isn't complete enough to be usable for everyone
<illiliti> it's lacking some things...
<vouivre> I'm testing, I just saw the option to set in firefox
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<vouivre_> yes, it works! Thank you!
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<illiliti> nice
<vouivre_> could you just explain in a few words what is the problem ? Sincerly I have no idea....
<testuser[m]12> illiliti: can u check pr
<illiliti> your isp does some dirty things with dns it seems
<illiliti> will do
<vouivre_> ok, thanks!
<vouivre_> like you are both online, I'll have another question about mdev.
<vouivre_> to use mdev I need the file /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug
<vouivre_> it wasn't present on my system
<illiliti> you don't need it
<illiliti> it's legacy way of hotplugging. you should be fine without it. just enable mdev service
<vouivre_> after compiling...... so I don't need to compile CONFIG_UEVENT_HELPER ?
<illiliti> no
<vouivre_> how ? mdev -d ? mdev -sd ?
<illiliti> /etc/sv/mdev/run
<vouivre_> thanks! I can look now further at the udev rule emulation.
<illiliti> i wonder how do you plan to implement it
<illiliti> i hope not via implementing parser for udev rules
<illiliti> cuz that would be pita. trust me, i know...
<vouivre_> I will first only have a look at the proposal for the mdev wrapper
<vouivre_> because I had no time until now to read the entire discussion
<illiliti> hm
<illiliti> testuser[m]12: i tested PR with dummy package. works fine
<illiliti> don't think i'll manage to test firefox in the near time
<illiliti> i don't have rust installed
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<wael[m]> ioraff: pixman is a dependency of foot, why isn't it listed in the depends?
<illiliti> probably a mistake
<testuser[m]12> illiliti: Where do u get chromium from
<testuser[m]12> The last bin i. Gave was 103
<testuser[m]12> Or something
<illiliti> i'm still using it
<illiliti> i landlock'ed it, so i'm fine
<testuser[m]12> lol
<testuser[m]12> Is landlock similar to user namespaces?
<illiliti> it's similar to unveil()
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<testuser[m]12> illiliti: how do u use it
<testuser[m]12> It seems like it has to be implemented in code of program
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