04:19 <wael[m]> Hi

04:20 <ioraff> hi

04:55 <wael[m]> is there an alternative to numfmt? it is in gnu coreutils but not in busybox

04:55 <wael[m]> it converts numbers to human readable format (eg. MB, KB, etc.)

04:59 <illiliti> you can implement it yourself

04:59 <illiliti> shouldn't be that hard

04:59 <wael[m]> how?

05:04 <illiliti> you gotta figure that out yourself

05:04 <illiliti> hint: binary prefix

05:04 <wael[m]> i just want me fancy numbers in me bar

05:05 <wael[m]> someone gave a shell solution which compares to less than 1024 for every unit byte soo ill use that ig

05:13 <testuser[m]1> Hi

05:13 <wael[m]> Hi

05:13 <testuser[m]1> <wael[m]> "i just want me fancy numbers..." <- https://git.suckless.org/slstatus/file/util.c.html#l98

05:14 <wael[m]> ah yes thx

06:30 <testuser[m]1> Speaking of languages, it's time to halt starting any new projects in C/C++ and use Rust for those scenarios where a non-GC language is required. For the sake of security and reliability. the industry should declare those languages as deprecated

06:54 <virutalmachineus> you sir is a genius! we should replace all shell scripts with rust, how close are we to rust kiss release?

07:05 <virutalmachineus> We all know rust is more secure and stable then c code, the kiss team should prioritize being rust depend. We should start slowly but surely moving to rust, as this team is innovate with the times. Next step is to build a build system using advance machine learning to minimize are compile times and package sizes.

09:33 <testuser[m]1> c++ is toxic for humanity because of its grotestquely and absurdely complex and massive syntax and its compilers. This is not a matter of opinion, this is an absolute unquestionable truth.

09:33 <testuser[m]1> I feel qualified to say such things as I've worked on a billion-line perl codebase before.

09:38 <testuser[m]1> I do not use I3 for security, afterall it's open source. Everyone can see how it works, if they have the time for it. But... Just about nobody can figure out what to do with it (colleges, friends, ...)

15:09 <rohan> i thinked that you guys hated rust

15:09 <wael[m]> nooo we looove rust!!! how could we EVER hate rust!! its so secure 🚀🚀🚀 and fast 🚀🚀🚀

15:10 <rohan> okay now i see thats a joke

15:42 <testuser[m]1> Linux is shit that was piled on top of shit for the past 30 years by amateur programmers, also it's cheesy and cheap as fuck, what idiot would separate the kernel from userland, all the packages, distros and other nonsense is insanity

16:30 <testuser[m]1> https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/22/python_vulnerability_tarfile/

16:30 <phoebos> wael[m]: also https://github.com/kiss-community/kiss/blob/875a574eb707e4315489eaef10f8d3ea8af3c6a3/contrib/kiss-size#L4

16:31 <wael[m]> thx

16:31 <wael[m]> i actually gave up with trying sicne it was kinda hard

17:08 <wael[m]> does https://tmp.bvnf.space/db.csv get updated?

17:08 <testuser[m]1> What kiss domain does kiss community or dilyn have control over

17:10 <wael[m]> https://kisscommunity.bvnf.space/

17:10 <testuser[m]1> no

17:10 <wael[m]> thats under control by phoebos

17:11 <testuser[m]1> That's a subdomain

17:12 <wael[m]> there is https://kisscommunity.org/

17:12 <testuser[m]1> kisscommunity.org

17:12 <wael[m]> but its empty

17:12 <wael[m]> someone owns it we dont know who

17:12 <testuser[m]1> dilyn

17:12 <wael[m]> a

17:12 <testuser[m]1> What about ditching site altogether and using wiki of forge

17:12 <testuser[m]1> install steps could use some updates

17:20 <phoebos> the archive, git, deb subdomains of kisscommunity.org are still up

17:20 <phoebos> wael[m]: db.csv isn't updated

17:21 <phoebos> maybe i'll get around to making that action

17:21 <phoebos> testuser[m]1: forge wikis are annoying

17:21 <phoebos> also not usually good for offline docs

18:19 <ioraff> is there an llvm.pc floating around anywhere?

18:48 <testuser[m]1> ioraff: it's in the lolvm shithub issue linked in PR

21:22 <illiliti> guys

21:22 <illiliti> as you know, martial law/mobilization has been declared recently in ru

21:22 <illiliti> things are escalating quickly

21:23 <illiliti> some people near me have already been called to the enlistment office

21:23 <illiliti> if i become MIA someday

21:24 <illiliti> then either i got imprisoned for 10 years for deserting

21:25 <illiliti> or shot in the head somewhere in fields of ukraine

21:25 <midfavila> fuq, that's shit dude

21:26 <midfavila> it's not much but hopefully you aren't conscripted . _.

21:26 <illiliti> i'm hiding at the moment as long as i can

21:31 <illiliti> i don't know what to expect...

21:31 <illiliti> just wanted to let you know about it

22:33 <noocsharp> sorry you got caught in the middle of this shitstorm

22:34 <noocsharp> stay safe

22:37 <noocsharp> to the best of your ability