<illiliti>
imho society should abolish traditional telephony
<Guest46>
I have a xioami phone that has ads on stock applications.
<illiliti>
cuz it's fucked
<illiliti>
xioami... hate those things
<Guest46>
traditional as in gsm?
<Guest46>
I wish I knew how to build graphene or LineagOS on it.
<illiliti>
gsm, ss7, all of this
<illiliti>
it's all fucked
<Guest46>
I remember in 2000 many people in my family refused to have a mobile phone.
<Guest46>
They said: If someone wants to meet me, my house is open.
<illiliti>
i remember people in 90s didn't even have mobile phones
<Guest46>
The guest room is almost empty all the times now.
<virutalmachineus>
yeah we need the 90's back.
<illiliti>
sad
<Guest46>
I propose the popup car headlights as well.
<sad_plan>
try not having a phone these days. its really strange
<illiliti>
i did that sad_plan
<illiliti>
it's quite challenging
<illiliti>
you just need internet
<illiliti>
i remember hacking wifi at burgenking...good times
<illiliti>
in country where i live, it's mandatory to have phone in order to access public wifi
<Guest46>
In my limited experience the smartphone even as a tool, people changed when they relied on it like today. I mean the very people I know.
<Guest46>
illiliti because of phone number.
<illiliti>
yeah
<illiliti>
but you know the bypass right?
<Guest46>
accually no
<illiliti>
ok
<illiliti>
i'll tell you
<illiliti>
you just need to change your mac address to mac of registered user
<Guest46>
how would I know the mac of a registered user and how to change it ? root right?
<illiliti>
someone connects to wifi, register there, you intercept the traffic and get mac of someone, change your mac to that mac, profit
<illiliti>
aircrack could help with that
<illiliti>
but it's secret
<Guest46>
haha thats...
<illiliti>
don't tell anyone
<Guest46>
TIL
<Guest46>
Thanks
<Guest46>
I'm trying to get the most cheap vs hackable android phone...any recommendations? sad_plan
<virutalmachineus>
pinephone
<Guest46>
If I could build custom roms I would but...xiami doesn't release drivers of thier phones.
<virutalmachineus>
you even run kiss
<Guest46>
I think it's expensive and not android right?
<illiliti>
which level of hackability do you need?
<illiliti>
ability to flash custom rom is enough?
<sad_plan>
pinephone is probably fine for tinkering, yeah. its really slow afaik though..
<Guest46>
illiliti yes thats the level
<sad_plan>
if custom roms, one plus' has had a good track record for being popular
<illiliti>
pixels
<sad_plan>
that would be the best. and flash graphene. screw everything else
<Guest46>
That's what I thought too. And that's why I asked about esim.
<Guest46>
thanks for suggestions.
<sad_plan>
iirc to activate esim youd need the playstore
<sad_plan>
lemme check
<sad_plan>
yep
<sad_plan>
says so in the settings
<Guest46>
do you use the playstore?
<Guest46>
Also, a problem on most phones now... very beg screens and wrist crushing weights.
<Guest46>
might as well use them as barbells.
<illiliti>
then pixel 4a is for you
<illiliti>
i hate big phones too
<illiliti>
i call them "shovel"
<Guest46>
Pixel 4a is a nice phone
<Guest46>
I phone se is nice too. I wish it was more... open?
<illiliti>
never had iphone, can't tell
<illiliti>
i usually avoid them as a plague
<macslash1[m]>
Went to samsung one day from iphone, never looked back
<macslash1[m]>
Its honestly quite nice
<Guest46>
I never had I phone too.
<Guest46>
iPhone*
<Guest46>
I had S4 Galaxy mini....died on my hand.
<Guest46>
It was a nice comrade.
<macslash1[m]>
I got the mini tablet of a phone the S22
<illiliti>
i remember i had htc one mine
<illiliti>
mini*
<illiliti>
nice phone
<illiliti>
was..
<Guest46>
I killed a whale........I mean htc wildfire is my second phone after flashlight nokia
<Guest46>
3.something inches
<Guest46>
phones got bigger since then.
<illiliti>
and i don't fully understand why
<macslash1[m]>
Slightly, my phone is 6.4 inches in height
<macslash1[m]>
3 inches width
<Guest46>
I made a pledge I will never buy 5 inches phone..
<Guest46>
new updated pledge is to never buy 6.5 inches
<macslash1[m]>
Lol, this is probably one of the biggest phones on the market rn
<macslash1[m]>
"Phone"
<Guest46>
They trully are shoveling us with the 6 inch shovels.
<virutalmachineus>
next up is tablets will become phones and tvs will well become tablets
<macslash1[m]>
I mean either that or they realise they are unwieldly and minitureise them until we have a phone as small as a nokia with the power of a super computer
<illiliti>
with full of tracking and ads, so you won't be able to access its raw power
<Guest46>
I think they should make smaller phones that are powerful and can be used with the dock.
<macslash1[m]>
illiliti true.
<Guest46>
with keyboard and stuff and opensource and open hardware.
<Guest46>
supermobile laptop
<illiliti>
you know that's impossible
<illiliti>
especially truly open hardware
<Guest46>
no I meant you attatch keyboard and usb things.
<Guest46>
ohh. ok
<illiliti>
you could do it already, no
<virutalmachineus>
is risv-v ever going to take off?
<macslash1[m]>
RISC-V is already sort of taking off I'd say
<illiliti>
it should, but dunno
<virutalmachineus>
s/risv/risc/
<macslash1[m]>
I saw smth I forgot what it was but it had an option for RISC-V arch and it was pretty cool
<Guest46>
I don't know only seen it on some samsung devices..
<Guest46>
re: illiliti: <you coud...>
<Guest46>
risc-v is interesting
<sad_plan>
dilyn is all about risc-v iirc. he made a blogpost about it even. theres talk about framework laptops getting risc boards everntually. even arm too.
<macslash1[m]>
I think I saw framework on LTT?
<sad_plan>
yep
<sad_plan>
he's an investor now
<macslash1[m]>
Really really cool I'd honestly probably get one
<macslash1[m]>
Yeah I remember
<Guest46>
arm and risc-v have the same goal but different opinions. Am I right?
<sad_plan>
Im getting keen on one too.
<sad_plan>
I have no idea
<Guest46>
Intel and AMD : nobody make x86 but us. ARM: Make ARM but be loyal to us. Risc-V: Make Risc-v.
<Guest46>
or somestory
<macslash1[m]>
Yeah ARM is proprietary RISC-V is not
<macslash1[m]>
Both are reduced instruction set though
<sad_plan>
I have one for opening pdfs aswell, which is basically just the same thing
<ioraff>
you don't need -I or {} at all since the argument just goes at the end
<illiliti>
^
<sad_plan>
oh
<illiliti>
i think you can also replace for loop with find command
<sad_plan>
nah, it seems itll just list word for word instead. and mpv will just error out
<sad_plan>
but yea, im sure I could switch to find instead. listing things in a directory has been a somewhat pickle for me. one could just use ls instead, but I dont wanna do that. soo I ended up using the loop
<illiliti>
don't use ls
<sad_plan>
I wont
<sad_plan>
I dont know why people do that tbh
<sad_plan>
even the old svc from suckless used ls.
<illiliti>
that sucks
<sad_plan>
yeah.
<sad_plan>
but ... xargs mpv wont work. mpv will just try to play each for as a separate file.
<phoebos>
if not for the dmenu you could use find -exec
<sad_plan>
im not locked into using dmenu in reality, its just better that way, as I dont need to actually open a terminal for it. I could however make it use a terminal instead, but then id have a terminal open, which is what I was trying to avoid
<sad_plan>
why doesnt dmenu work with find -exec?
<phoebos>
i meant you could use -exec instead of xargs to construct the command
<ioraff>
`find . -type f | awk -F "/" '{print $NF}' | dmenu | xargs mpv` should work