02:32 <acheam> cem: yeah its nice that thats standardized

02:33 <acheam> im still against centralized repos though

02:33 <acheam> how've you been? been a while

03:19 <jslick> Anyone manage to update firefox for mainland kiss (wayland)? I tried building it without the no-X11 patch and installing x11 deps (so that I wouldn't have to maintain a no-X11 patch) but still using wayland but it doesn't launch

03:38 <sad_plan> jslick: if you build firefox for x11, youd need to enable xwayland for it to launch

03:40 <jslick> Even if it is running in wayland mode (e.g. MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1)? To clarify, I'm just trying to get rid of the no-X11 patch but still run it in wayland

03:44 <sad_plan> no, youd need to run it in x11 mode, as it runs under x11 instead

03:44 <sad_plan> so xwayland needs to be enabled on xorg-server, and wayland

03:48 <jslick> how are other distros able to run it under wayland? (e.g. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/firefox#Wayland seems it would be running it as a wayland client)

03:49 <testuser[m]> Hi

03:49 <sad_plan> arch and other distros have been notorious (afaik) to enable just about everything, so installing firefox on i.e. arch, should pull in xwayland iirc

03:49 <sad_plan> hi

03:55 <jslick> yeah I'm sure they do. guess I'm just confused how they are able to run it as a wayland client. I had thought xwayland was for running x clients in wayland

03:56 <sad_plan> I tried to look for it, and on arch, it seems this may not be the case. seems xorg-xwayland is the package name for it on arch anyway.

03:56 <jslick> maybe there's still some launch code that runs in X or something. I'll try building xwayland sometime

03:56 <sad_plan> it is the way to run x11 packages on wayland. I mean, besides porting it to wayland though.

03:57 <sad_plan> I dont belive its that hard, just enable xwayland in wayland, and xorg, and you should be good to go. Ive never tried it myself, but Ive though about it at times. but Im still on xorg anyway, so its not really any issues for me tbh

03:59 <sad_plan> you may or may not need to alter the mesa package aswell, Im not sure tbh.

04:00 <jslick> Yeah, it seems ehawkvu has maintained kiss-org pretty well. Maybe I'll have to switch to it sometime. Kind of a shame, I like having a machine on wayland, but I could switch a different computer to wayland

04:04 <sad_plan> could dualboot kiss, one xorg and one wayland though. if you got the space for it

04:05 <sad_plan> or just switch for now. id like to run wayland myself, but I havent been able to figure out how to run anything usefull on velox yet. like firefox or something else Id like to run

04:06 <jslick> Yeah, problem is just finding a build of firefox that is updated for wayland. It's occurred to me I could just switch to 91 ESR for now and just apply Dylan's no-X11 patch for that version

04:11 <sad_plan> that could work aswell, and less work, assuiming itll apply

04:13 <jslick> Well I could tweak it if I needed. I just didn't want to have to maintain a no-X11 patch for Firefox 97+. ESR versions shouldn't be as difficult

04:15 <sad_plan> its probably off by a few lines if it doesnt apply, right away. understandable :p

04:16 <testuser[m]> Cluadia posted some fentoo repo for ff wayland

04:16 <testuser[m]> Gentoo

04:16 <testuser[m]> Wait

04:19 <testuser[m]> https://github.com/ATiltedTree/firefox-wayland

04:19 <testuser[m]> Nvm not a gentoo repo just patches

04:21 <jslick> hmmm... interesting

04:22 <jslick> Wonder what the reason is for system jpeg

04:42 <Rohan> hi

04:47 <jslick> hi, to answer your earlier question, imo yes probably time to fork kiss main repo. I'm not "in charge" though.

04:56 <Rohan> lol

04:56 <Rohan> think is time too

04:57 <Rohan> but maybe i runaway from kiss

04:57 <Rohan> go back to gentoo or something

04:57 <Rohan> but i will continue to maintain my packages

14:30 <Rohan> hi

14:46 <Rohan> anyone can send me a .config kernel file for VM machine

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