03:58 <kyxor> hello guys, what is going on in Kiss? I see dylan stop maintaining the main repo...

04:08 <kyxor> well, kisslinux kinda went dormant for now. I am still around if you need me, though I don't check irc logs

04:27 <testuser[m]> Hi

04:33 <kyxor> Hello testuser, nice to see you

14:36 <testuser[m]> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNU-Binutils-2.38

19:44 <sad_plan> ji

19:44 <sad_plan> s/ji/hi/

20:19 <ax> good evening all. what happened to dylan?

20:20 <sad_plan> working on something else appearantly

20:20 <sad_plan> some private repo

20:20 <ax> what happened here? why have we now become unofficial and kisslinux no longer has a dedicated irc channel? I have missed a lot of things in the last year obviously.

20:21 <sad_plan> dylan didnt wanna deal with it anymore I suppose. So he left it to the community to maintain it

20:22 <ax> very clear. practically: everything that was not right for him was excluded from the speech and with it therefore the whole community automatically.

20:23 <ax> I have been missing for a long time for personal problems, are there other users who can confirm it?

20:23 <sad_plan> yep. he seemed to only wanna deal with the official developement of kiss, and its accompaniying repos. everything else was ditched

20:24 <sad_plan> so no irc, no community repo, no redditpage. he even removed it from the website too, so the official way of getting help, was infact seding him an email instead of the irc, or redditpage

20:25 <sad_plan> s/sding/sending/

20:25 <ax> if what I see is real it automatically means that the system is dead. there is not much more to add. I'm sorry for putting my trust in it.

20:26 <ax> ok now i send a mail. thank you sad_plan.

20:26 <sad_plan> we're still here anyway if any help is needed, its just the offical repos that currently unmaintained, yet again. theres again talk about forking them, to keep things up to date

20:28 <sad_plan> but ofc, there noone stoping you from sending dylan an email, and ask him whats up. I suppose lots of us are curious as to what his situation really is

20:29 <ax> I thank you very much, I'm not here because I need help. I came to say that I had solved some problems and could operate.

20:29 <ax> there cannot be a distribution without its creator. it goes against the concept of community.

20:29 <ax> I don't like this line

20:31 <sad_plan> no it doesnt. several distros has changed maintainers. iirc, void had that stuff too. Its not like the community is 'taking over' kisslinux either, its just keeping it up to date for everyone

20:31 <sad_plan> I mean, the creator cant change, but projects change developers all the time. thats the good thing with open source. if its abondoned, anyone can pick it back up

20:35 <ax> I don't want to open controversy ... but I don't think that way. Your interest is very nice and appreciable. But I believe that the good of the community comes from creator + collaborators + community ... and that the power of decisions is for the community and not for the will of individuals. automatically if the creator rejects everything that is not said about him and I believe it means that

20:36 <ax> it is no longer a free project.

20:36 <ax> this is my idea about it. which is why I would like to hear him say it before I realize I have wasted time.

20:45 <sad_plan> you have wasted 0 time by building kiss. you see, kiss is a 1 mans project initially. and the repos are just a template for kiss to use. anyone can create their own repo, and have their own kiss linux fork. thats part of the point with kiss

20:46 <ax> I know .. but I want to ask and understand why there is no longer any desire to have an official channel with which to discuss in real time. this is not good. never.

20:50 <sad_plan> then hit him up, and hope you get an answer

21:10 <noocsharp> ax: there's a reason it's designed to have a bus factor of zero

21:21 <sad_plan> ^

22:02 <sad_plan> is anyone somewhat proficient with regex? im trying to create a script for st, wth the externalpipe patch, to open links in browser. but my regex and grep doesnt seem to cooperate..

22:03 <sad_plan> in any case, heres the script: https://0x0.st/oXVi.sh

22:10 <phinxy> libudev-zero says "What doesn't work .. cups - needs investigation". Cups work on my end except that printers have to be added with `lpadmin` due to an error when trying to list drivers "lpinfo: Internal Server Error". Printed a bill today, no problem.

22:11 <illiliti> sad_plan: escape |

22:11 <illiliti> \|

22:15 <sad_plan> you mean all of them? I tried that, and it matched all of https, but no the rest. which was curious

22:18 <illiliti> https://regex101.com/

22:18 <illiliti> this should help you

22:19 <sad_plan> Ive actually stumbled upon that one myself, or rather a link inside it. but more reading have never hurt me :p

22:22 <sad_plan> thanks for reminding me though. sortof forgot about it actually

22:22 <Rohan> anyone have build lxc? or know someone how have?

22:28 <illiliti> sad_plan: try -E

22:28 <illiliti> should work

22:28 <illiliti> grep -Eio

22:30 <illiliti> remove escapes

22:42 <sad_plan> it worked :D

23:20 <Acid-Bong> Are there distros almost as minimal as Kiss, which are not Kiss forks?

23:29 <jslick> Oasis I guess. Depends on what you mean by minimal - I wouldn't consider the oasis build to as minimal as the kiss package manager / build, but it can probably build a pretty minimal system.