<ukky>
farkuhar: I can confirm that opt/gnuplot doesn't build when qt* is not installed: #include <QtCore> : qtterminal/qt_term.cpp:51:10: fatal error: QtCore: No such file or directory
<farkuhar>
ukky: thanks for confirming. There's already a patch for the configure script in our port, so maybe it just needs a few more insertions to handle the case of no available Qt.
<farkuhar>
it reminds me of what r0ni noticed about libgphoto2: its footprint has a file that only gets created when libgd is present, but libgd was not listed as a hard dependency. I can't fault jue for not testing his builds in a clean container, because the team is suffering from a serious lack of manpower with no Romster around.
<ukky>
it was a quick test on my side, as this system doesn't have Qt installed
<ukky>
We probably need to develop a build/test system for all sort of verifications. I think beerman does compile in a container.
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<joe9>
got a crux vm working. no more alpine for me...
<r0ni>
gst-plugins-good has a "prt-get prt-get isinst qt5" which kills the check for qt5
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<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: "Here we get 37C but so wet and sticky it is like swimming in cheese. 6 showers a day still isn't enough." Same here over the past 2 months. Except I'm an introvert, so I don't go outside nearly as much.
<SiFuh>
I sent that message at 01:18 in the morning and it was 35 Celsius then
<remiliascarlet>
I was very busy today, I didn't even realize it's 23:17 already.
<SiFuh>
I have spent the entire day cleaning and moving furniture around in the bedroom so I can position my blanket directly under the ceiling fan. Tired of being woken up by thinking it is raining on me.
<SiFuh>
I will finish the rest tomorrow. Hopefully the new Shock absorbers arrive then I can start installing them either in the afternoon or Thursday morning.
<remiliascarlet>
For me it was mostly figuring out how to hack my Nintendo Switch to run homebrew, and I finally got it working.
<SiFuh>
Heh, cool
<remiliascarlet>
Meanwhile, PS Vita is just a matter of going to a certain website, and you're good to go.
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<SiFuh>
I reckon if I can't get the shocks installed by Thursday morning. I will be pinching the wife's VIOS and drive that to KL instead.
<remiliascarlet>
I have yet to hack my 3DS and DSi, then I have all portable devices with an internet connection covered.
<farkuhar>
remiliascarlet, Re: introversion and 6 showers a day, consider this. http://ix.io/4G9V
<remiliascarlet>
Luckily, my skin is much thicker after having spent 3 entire decades on the internet.
<remiliascarlet>
Far before it got so hopelessly sanitized like it is today.
<remiliascarlet>
Nowadays you can't even say something as objective as "rotten banana is black", or you'll be canceled for racism.
<SiFuh>
I don't consider a banana ripe until it is black
<SiFuh>
That reminds me of when I use to live in Thailand. I had two banana trees growing out the back of my house. There was a bunch almost turning yellow. When I came back home after work, I went out the back to cut the bunch down and someone had stolen it.
<remiliascarlet>
All the bananas sold here are imported from Phillipines.
<SiFuh>
I few months later there was a new bunch but still green. I drew a cartoon of a criminal stealing my bunch of bananas and and I guy shooting a bullet at the criminal. Because it was still green I didn't think anyone would steal it yet. But when I came home from work someone stole the bunch of bananas and they also stole the cartoon I taped to the wall.
<remiliascarlet>
Does Donkey Kong live in Thailand maybe?
<SiFuh>
South East Asia has a lot of pety crime.
<SiFuh>
petty*
<remiliascarlet>
Over here it's either umbrella theft, or bicycle theft, or ass-ass-inations.
<SiFuh>
Far out. The pub in KL has a bin next to the door full of umbrellas. They are for those who are walking home in the rain. No one has ever stolen a single one. They always return them.
<SiFuh>
We had a bicycle stolen in Shanghai. My friend said we made the mistake of parking out bicycle at the end of the bicycle rack. He said you always put it in the middle.
<remiliascarlet>
Somebody once stole my umbrella while I was getting a quick snack at the 7-11, so I just stole somebody else's umbrella. The owner of that umbrella probably stole somebody else's umbrella too.
<SiFuh>
The descendents of the great Samurais are now umbrella theives. Oh the shame
<remiliascarlet>
Back then, we fought with swords. Today, we fight with umbrellas.
<remiliascarlet>
Or baseball bats, if it's not raining.
<remiliascarlet>
Baseball in Japan is like soccer in Europe and Latin America.
<SiFuh>
If I lived their, I'd get a cool umbrella like this
<remiliascarlet>
Make sure you grow some muscles first, or police could get pretty anal about that.
<remiliascarlet>
OMG IS THAT A SWORD!? TO JAIL WITH YOU!!
<SiFuh>
Police suck
<remiliascarlet>
They always tend to pick the tiny and skinny people, but never even bother with tall, fat, or strong (looking) people.
<SiFuh>
My father is in some archery club and one of the guys rides a motorbike. He has a black plastic cylinder container that hangs over his back and he dismantles his bow and puts it inside that with the arrows. He says police always pull him over and tell him to throw it on the ground while they search it to make sure it isn't a shotgun
<SiFuh>
Actually that reminds me. I was going to watch that Japanese series Sanctuary
<remiliascarlet>
I've been watching lots of horror videos of Australian police during the covid psyop, are those true?
<SiFuh>
Yep
<SiFuh>
They even brought out those Active Denial System during the protests and were causing many people even children to get swelling and burns all over and migraine head aches
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<remiliascarlet>
Despite Crux's tiny userbase, this is perhaps the most active IRC channel on which I'm still not banned from yet.
<SiFuh>
That's because those with Op status forgot their password. Hahahaha Just kidding
<joe9>
It takes a lot of trekking to get to crux.
<joe9>
or, Plan 9.
<farkuhar>
Or those with Op status keep their passwords on a gorilla drive buried deep in a closet somewhere, which makes it too much trouble to bother banning someone for anything less serious than badmouthing the core team in another public forum.
<SiFuh>
Trekking as in Star Trek. Plan 9 as in Plan 9 from Outerspace.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Hehe
<SiFuh>
Plan 9 from Outerspace is heaps better than Star Trek anyway.
<lavaball>
is there nay downside to having thigns a modules and not in the kernel? besides the necessary boot things. is in kernel faster?
<jaeger>
If the same amount of stuff is loaded either way, not particularly... but I could see a situation where a modular kernel might boot faster than a kernel with everything enabled on the same system
<jaeger>
Though after the system is booted it probably makes no difference
<SiFuh>
The only reason I would choose to put something static in the kernel is for secruity purposes or if rarely need that module to reference a kernel function directly.
<lavaball>
so it really is just the obvious.
<SiFuh>
I prefer modules due to flexibility.
<lavaball>
thanks a bunch.
<lavaball>
for me it depends on the box. my recording box has everything in kernel, no modules no nothing. no extended functionally either. it records sound and video. can't even read other filesystems besides ext4.
<lavaball>
this one gets all the files systems so lots of modules.
<SiFuh>
On a side note. Something you compile into the kernel could crash your system for whatever reason. As as module you just stop it from loading.
<lavaball>
if the modul loads at boot and you don't have parameters enabled it leads to the same outcome.
<lavaball>
i'm not worried about that. all local machines so far.
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<farkuhar>
r0ni: I'm constantly invoking pkg-repgen incorrectly because of muscle memory doing `httpup-repgen .` (arg $1 is interpreted by pkg-repgen as a package name, but httpup-repgen interprets it as a directory). I can't think of a similar story that would explain the typo `prt-get prt-get isinst qt5` in gst-plugins-good.
<farkuhar>
Fortunately the gst-plugins-good meson file is smart enough to autodetect qt5, so it doesn't matter that the prt-get command fails.
<SiFuh>
prt-get depisnt always pisses me off.
<SiFuh>
My left hand presses the s father than my right hand goes from i to n
<SiFuh>
father/faster
<jaeger>
Maybe we should make some aliases :D like 'prt-get dont uninstall' or 'prt-get isntinst' :D
<SiFuh>
HAHAHA
<farkuhar>
Since httpup-repgen is provided by a core package, it's safe to assume that more CRUX users are familiar with its syntax than with the pkg-get syntax. I'm inclined to rewrite the argument parsing in my pkg-get fork so that it follows more closely the example set by httpup-repgen.
<jaeger>
'prt-get dontforgetthedeps'
<jaeger>
malicious compliance sort of stuff
<farkuhar>
How about this? pkg-repgen [<directory>] [<pkg1>...<pkgN>]. If you want only certain packages updated in the index, you have to pass BOTH the directory and the package names. Passing no args is equivalent to rebuilding a full index of $PWD.
<jaeger>
admittedly I've never used pkg-get or pkg-repgen, or if I have it's been so long I don't recall now
<SiFuh>
Why not have 'prt-get httpup' and 'prt-get repgen' ?
<SiFuh>
jaeger: Same as me. I don't think I have ever used it.
<r0ni>
i use pkg-get all the time on my shit arm system, but i also only do that cuz building is so slow
<farkuhar>
Both code paths in your script lead to {pkg,httpup}-repgen being invoked with no arguments, even if the user meant to call the wrapper script with args. Kind of like what happens with the ffmpeg-x264-10bit.sh wrapper that comes with opt/ffmpeg.
<SiFuh>
Aware, just couldn't be bothered writing it all. It was meant for a joke actually
<farkuhar>
That wrapper is just brain-dead; it drops all args effectively making the ffmpeg command a no-op.
<SiFuh>
Heh
<SiFuh>
https://dpaste.com/HS28DAB6L.txt Here is a script I wrote awhile ago so I can scan for CCTV cameras and use either fplay or mpv to access them
<SiFuh>
I use it to access the CCTV around the home
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<ukky>
Would it be too much work to enable https:// protocol for git repositories at crux.nu? At work, my company blocks git queries via git:// and ssh://.