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<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libbluray: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libchardet: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libcgi: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libcue: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libdv: adopted port; included more patches
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libebml: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libdca: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libfm: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libfaketime: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libfm-extra: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libmcrypt: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libmatroska: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libmms: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libnetfilter_queue: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libnfnetlink: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libnetfilter_cttimeout: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libnetfilter_cthelper: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: libnice: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: p5-io-socket-ssl: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: p5-socket6: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: p5-term-readkey: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: p5-xml-writer: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: pcmanfm: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: patchutils: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: picom: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: preload: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: portaudio: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: protobuf-c: marked unmaintained; doesn't build, see #679
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-alabaster: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-asn1crypto: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-attrs: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-constantly: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-html5lib: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-idna: adopted port
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-imagesize: marked unmaintained
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-iso-639: marked unmaintained
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<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-cssselect: adopted port
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<r0ni> not building updates for a few days can really bit ya in the ass... damn lol
<SiFuh_> True
<SiFuh_> Mine is about 1 or 2 months and yeah, very pain in the ass
<SiFuh_> Wouldn't mind two repos though. Bleeding edge and stable.
<SiFuh_> Bet most of us will stick with stable and that will offload a lot of work on the maintainers
<SiFuh_> Repo BE and S. BS, Bullshit ;-) Hahahahahahaha sorry, mind works on tangents a lot
<r0ni> i don't mind the bleeding edge of it all, and not updating just keeps me in one place anyway, but my OCD won't let me ignore available updates
<farkuhar> SiFuh_: my AsRock motherboard is even buggier than I thought. At first it looked like only one USB keyboard had problems initializing, but now I've found other keyboards affected too. On cold boot, I can't even enter the BIOS setup menu; the keyboard is not recognized until plugged in again to the booted system.
<r0ni> using ARM also makes it so I don't want to fall behind cuz then it becomes even more painful to catch up
<SiFuh_> farkuhar: Said before it sounds like an active multiplexing controller however, after reading forums your mobo is very buggy. I am not an Asus fan and since Asrock is under Asus I would never have purchased it.
<farkuhar> SiFuh_: yeah, I tried all those i8042 kernel parameters, but nothing seems to do the trick. Next time I'll choose a different mobo brand.
<SiFuh_> r0ni: I would like a development repo and a stable repo. It would require a lot of compilation and testing which would increase the work load of maintainers but at the same time knowing a stable repo exists and development is for testing it could decrease the work load on maintainers. Catch 22 I guess
<SiFuh_> farkuhar: Can you warranty return it?
<SiFuh_> Tell them it isn't peforming to the standards they claim?
<SiFuh_> Last mobo I ever bought was DFI Lan Party. Shame they seem to have gone the way of the Dodo.
<farkuhar> SiFuh_: doubtful. The mobo was unboxed on 6 January 2021, so it's already served a good 2+ years so far.
<SiFuh_> Mine only died from a lightening strike
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<SiFuh_> farkuhar: shit....... :-(
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<SiFuh_> farkuhar: maybe look for an old PS/2 keyboard
<SiFuh_> Or a PS/2 to USB adapter
<farkuhar> SiFuh_: I actually have an old PS/2 keyboard, but I wanted something hot-pluggable, for the convenience of cleaning the keycaps more frequently than every shutdown. It's a shame the USB ports on this mobo are so flaky.
<r0ni> SiFuh_ ya with the small amount of ppl I could see that being an issue, could always do your own repo... i've considered to branch it all to test different ideas myself
<SiFuh_> Apologies in advanced for more than usual multiple lines. Too much paint fumes from spraying the wife's cousin's car.
<SiFuh_> r0ni: Core should be 100% priority and nothing else. There should be a team that works strictly on it. Then opt/xorg/compat should be built upon core by separate teams. Unfortunately there isn't enough maintainers so we do with what we have. Which isn't bad since 2001 CRUX is still kicking
<SiFuh_> farkuhar: PS/2 isn't hotpluggable? Been years since I touched one heh
<farkuhar> separate teams for opt/xorg/compat-32? Where are we going to get all those volunteers?
<SiFuh_> farkuhar: exactly
<SiFuh_> https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/news-appeals/update-social-media-video-leeds <-- Hell no! You dragged a 16 year old kid out of their home and locked them up like a stray dog for using adjectives. This ain't over if it was me!
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<ukky> farkuhar: Your MB has USB 2.0 headers, try connecting your keyboard to USB 2.0 port.
<farkuhar> ukky: good idea. I suspected there might be a solution like that, after seeing the dmesg errors around xhci hcd.
<farkuhar> dmesg also complains about an unknown group 'sgx', but I don't think that message is related to the keyboard problem.
<ukky> Keyboard is low-speed USB device, even USB 2.0 speed is overkill
<SiFuh_> https://i.snipboard.io/hI3dra.jpg <-- not perfect but I was only given 2 days.
<ukky> sgx is not related to keyboard, nor USB, AFAIK. udev triggers that warning.
<SiFuh_> ukky: You think the BIOS has an option to downgrade USB port speed?
<ukky> SiFuh_: No
<ukky> Different driver stacks are loaded for USB 2.0 vs USB 3.0, i.e. EHCI/XHCI vs OHCI vs UHCI.
<SiFuh_> SGX = Intel software guard extensions
<SiFuh_> farkuhar: you can disable that with nogsx in the kernel. The webpage I sent the other day has it nosgx [X86-64,SGX] Disables Intel SGX kernel support.
<SiFuh_> nogsx/nosgx*
<SiFuh_> r0ni: prt-get diff | wc -l shows 77 ports to update :-)
<SiFuh_> I do like the amount of options Linux Kernel has in the kernel-parameters.txt
<SiFuh_> atkbd.reset i8042.nomux
<SiFuh_> farkuhar: ^ that may work if you have to unplug it and re-plug it in. The atkbd.reset option
<SiFuh_> There are also these i8042.reset i8042.kbdreset and USB quirks has a reset option as well but that I think will not be good since it will reset all USB devices from what I see
<ppetrov^> i am surprised you guys are discussing -stable and -testing branches
<ppetrov^> when i wrote my review about CRUX, the responces I read here were "well, crux is like this" and "you just update less often"
<ppetrov^> :)
<SiFuh_> ppetrov^: I think it is the mindset :-P
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<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: nvidia: updated to version 535.98
<cruxbot> [compat-32.git/3.7]: nvidia-32: updated to version 535.98
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: runc: updated to version 1.1.9
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: qemu-guest-agent: updated to version 8.0.4
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: go: updated to version 1.21.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: docker-compose: updated to version 2.20.3
<SiFuh_> Can't sleep. It is like Tales of the Gold Monkey here. I have corn set up for drying outside and there is a monkey invasion. I have saved all corn but the monkeys want access to my house
<SiFuh_> Thought they sleep during the night hours. Why are they here? Not enough food in the jungle?
<joacim> they found a footprint mismatch
<SiFuh_> They found an overprotective corn hording Aussie
<SiFuh_> They are across the road now in the mangloess mango tree. They are wickedly intelligent so must say alert. I know Africans who are Pithecophobic and I don't blame them. They are leathal, fast, cunning, swift and just dangerous
<SiFuh_> I am missing many characters in my previous message. Don't worry, the monkeys didn't steal them.
<SiFuh_> Remember when I lived in a block of flats in Kuala Lumpur. 7 stories tall. A monkey climbed up the wall until the the 5th floor and was there watching TV. The TV belonged to my friend from Nigeria. He is married to a Filippina wife. He is generally a slow person but this guy raped the stair case in seconds. He moved so fast when he saw that monkey. I was laughing and his wife says he is scared of them. He
<SiFuh_> didn't returm to his flat until night time.
<SiFuh_> I don't blame him for the fear. They scare the shit out of me as well.
<SiFuh_> Tonight is like Ptch Black but with monkeys. :-P
<SiFuh_> Pitch Black (2000)
<SiFuh_> I use to sell Bhut Jolokia plants (Ghost pepper) here in Malaysia. Discovered it was a bad idea. Monkeys recognise the plant and rip off the leaves. That was a new thing for me.
<SiFuh_> Never seen an animal defoliate a plant because of a fruit before
<r0ni> SiFuh_ : i'd die if i had 77 ports to update! lol
<r0ni> (i realize that was hours ago)
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: vala: 0.56.10 -> 0.56.11
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: cairo: dropped old patch
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: gtk3: dropped superfluous dependency: xorg-libxrandr
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: pango: dropped superfluous dependency: gobject-introspection, harfbuzz
<ppetrov^> r0ni, how many ports do you have?
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<SiFuh_> r0ni: All good, not getting sleep at the moment ;)