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<SiFuh_>
When you are ready to relase a new version, it would be lovely if you can notify me 1 or 2 days before of the actual kernel version. Then I can send you the update.
<SiFuh_>
jaeger: ^
<SiFuh_>
Apart from that, all good :-)
<SiFuh_>
Usually takes about a day to filter through the kernel but if it is a big jump between kernel versions, I do need about 2 days.
<lavaball>
i want the experience!
<lavaball>
can i like request it from the operator like in those green letter movies?
<lavaball>
operator! i need to know how to configure the current linux kernel!
<lavaball>
then i make a seizure like eyemovement and BOOM the kernel configuration music starts!
<SiFuh_>
Doesn't work that way bro
<lavaball>
but i saw it in those documentaries!
<lavaball>
my trix, my trix reloaded, my trix revolution!
<SiFuh_>
People see ghosts too and mermaids in documentaries
<ppetrov^>
lavaball, i see interesting things in the extracellular matrix
<ppetrov^>
also in the mitochondrial matrix
<ppetrov^>
many matrices, all different
<SiFuh_>
ppetrov^: I see interesting things in an unsanitary communal bath tub :-P
<ppetrov^>
world is fascinating
<SiFuh_>
It sure is even at the level below disgusting
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<lavaball>
ppetrov^, now that you mentioned those, i had them in school. i failed.
<SiFuh_>
lavaball: You sticking around?
<lavaball>
only until you ban me.
<SiFuh_>
We don't ban here
<lavaball>
my record is under an hour, so i'm already doing pretty well.
<SiFuh_>
You could be the first ;-)
<SiFuh_>
You still haven't installed CRUX right?
<lavaball>
well, at this point i'm collecting. alpine, void, gentoo, even over at openbsd i can't talk anymore. though i think that was an oversight. i made a joke about the topic police and those are usually well received. well, not that time. it's been over a week.
<lavaball>
but let me double check.
<lavaball>
yeah, still mutd.
<SiFuh_>
I like Void
<lavaball>
e
<lavaball>
i too. but they wanted me to use pronouns and i said i'm not invested in this.
<SiFuh_>
Doesn't do what I want though. It is kind of like being in a prison
<SiFuh_>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
<lavaball>
that's nothing!
<SiFuh_>
I called them a channel full of wankers about 3 or 4 years ago and I never came back.
<lavaball>
alpine i brought the "online all women are men, and all children are the fbi" and one of them thought i said something against women in tech.
<SiFuh_>
I was helping a guy with a keyboard issue. They insulted me and took control of the conversation. Turns out the guys problem was solved by me. But didn't stop Void insulting me.
<lavaball>
haha.
<lavaball>
ohhhh i do you one better.
<SiFuh_>
Did you call them a channel full of wankers? Because I did :-P
<lavaball>
so my x wasn't workign on gentoo. someone offered to take a look at my kernel. i made it clear that i only want necessities, nothing else. he gave me back a config with 1000 more lines having enabled mitigations, wireguard, ..., even the cdrom. i then said i didn't want that and they were already annoyed. then when i had a trace something in dmesg with his config but not mine i said i see what's going on here. i've been messed with. then they muted me.
<lavaball>
told me now i have to figure it out on my own.
<lavaball>
that's the premise!
<lavaball>
now the punch line.
<lavaball>
they had a shebang missing in their openbox file and that's hwy it didn't work, but i couldn't tell them, because i was banned everywhere. so i had to make an account and report the bug.
<lavaball>
be that as it may. thanks for reading, and i appreciate you guys not being weird.
<SiFuh_>
Heh
<SiFuh_>
Been there done that
<SiFuh_>
We don't ban. If we did, I'd have been long gone since 2002
<lavaball>
well, but you know what you are doing. i was just luckily that there were two files in /etc/X11/Sessions, and one had the #!/bin/bash and the other didn't.
<SiFuh_>
I know I was a pain in the arse then and I still think I am a pain the arse today
<lavaball>
well, so far you seem delightful. no complains from my side.
<ppetrov^>
SiFuh_, CRUX's irc channel delight
<SiFuh_>
Curse
<SiFuh_>
I don't keep stuff bottled up. :-P
<SiFuh_>
A day later I will review what I had said and then shake my head. Hahaha perfect example, last night.
<SiFuh_>
Maybe a bit too many beers or something.
<lavaball>
good for you.
<SiFuh_>
I will snap like that when sober though
<lavaball>
not the drinking, but the letting stuff out.
<SiFuh_>
Also I will put a person in their place or in a hospital if they tell me that I HAVE/MUST/NEED to. Hate it when some moron thinks he has authority.
<lavaball>
well, definiltey MUST stick around, because of my NEED of being entertained. so if you HAVE me listen to your words some more, good sir, please continue ...
<SiFuh_>
Heh, just roasted a duck and ate it. Fabulous. I was to teach the wife but in the end I took over because roast duck should not be messed with. Should see the smile on her face as she was munching away on it.
<lavaball>
no wife, no meat. can't relate.
<lavaball>
but you have at it.
<SiFuh_>
My wife can't cook at all
<lavaball>
the asian one?
<SiFuh_>
However, I will retract that statement since she has been cooking by my command and even though it is not perfect, she is getting better. I don't tell her it is bad though.
<SiFuh_>
I have one wife and she is Asian
<lavaball>
well, i'm still at 0 but i'm thiking at least 12.
<SiFuh_>
But I am impressed. I send photos to my mother in Australia
<SiFuh_>
Difficult stuff like Turkey, duck, slow cooked, smoked I take over.
<SiFuh_>
Building a simple Thai smoker for her by the way. Was to finish today but because of the duck it will be done tomorrow
<lavaball>
you know the tech and the mechanics?
<lavaball>
now i'm impressed.
<SiFuh_>
I was a bush survival teacher in the SES in Australia for years. So yeah it isn't hard it is just not mainstream
<lavaball>
ses? is that some hidden & dangerous faction we didnt' get to play with in the game?
<SiFuh_>
I am making a simple one. She can carry, wash, clean, setup and store easily.
<SiFuh_>
SES = State Emergency Service
<lavaball>
got ya.
<lavaball>
so weight, you australian. so when i say "rise up lights" you understand "razorblades", right?
<SiFuh_>
The bigger one will be a bit complicated for her. I am actually to build a smoke house in a few months for a Malay guy.
<SiFuh_>
lavaball: HAHAHAHA close enough but not how they pronounce it.
<SiFuh_>
Rizer Blides
<lavaball>
haha.
<lavaball>
well, thanks for thor and crocodile dundee.
<lavaball>
we all do the this is a knife joke now and then.
<SiFuh_>
I hate the accent so much. Always feel like I am being pulled over by a gay copper
<SiFuh_>
G
<lavaball>
i wish i could do accents. i'm really horrible with all of them.
<SiFuh_>
G'day mate, you been drinkin?
<SiFuh_>
USA I preferred. Excuse me sir, have you had anything to drink tonight?
<lavaball>
i have neither a car nor do i drink.
<lavaball>
all these adventures i can't have.
<SiFuh_>
I can pick an Aussie who can fake any accent by one of two words. No and Really?
<SiFuh_>
My car is at the mechanics with an empty fuel tank. He likes to drive around and chew up your fuel. So we always empty the tank as low as possible. Hahah
<lavaball>
hahaha
<lavaball>
hahahaha
<lavaball>
nice.
<SiFuh_>
My Gerry/Jerry cans are full :-P
<lavaball>
my tires need air. how do i get it in there?
<lavaball>
tyres
<lavaball>
i thought i had a pump thingy, but it doesn't seem to fit.
<lavaball>
that's what i have to deal with.
<SiFuh_>
Isn't tire US English and tyre British/AU/CA/NZ English?
<lavaball>
bicycle.
<SiFuh_>
I have a battery operated air compressor from Milwaukee
<SiFuh_>
But I go off-road and jungle a bit so it is kind of essential
<lavaball>
!!!
<lavaball>
jungle!
<lavaball>
there lies the enemy!
<lavaball>
they will eat you!
<SiFuh_>
I can live and never leave the Jungle
<lavaball>
i'll allow it.
<SiFuh_>
Spent years in Aussie forrests, and jungles. Still learning the Malay version though
<lavaball>
i hope you don't mind me not joining you though.
<SiFuh_>
Heh
<SiFuh_>
Question is can you handle it
<SiFuh_>
To be truthful, I have never met anyone that can't handle it and will love it within 2 weeks
<SiFuh_>
I use to take city folks bush for a week at a time. But this was before celluar phones existed
<SiFuh_>
People didn't have faces glued to the black mirror or dream of swiping shit like they do today.
<jaeger>
I've never lived in the jingle but did stay for a few days in the jungle in Belize. It was really nice there.
<lavaball>
i don't one of these phones. never had.
<lavaball>
still i wouldn't want to go into the jungle.
<lavaball>
own
<lavaball>
question is, do i stuff my face with more peanut butter and 100% chocolate?
<SiFuh_>
jaeger: The jungle is awesome. So many new things, so fresh, so free, not many rules.
<ppetrov^>
> To be truthful, I have never met anyone that can't handle it and will love it within 2 weeks < you have not met me...
<SiFuh_>
My wife likes chocolate. She doesn't know that I have been secretly stealing it. She thinks she has been eating it and forgetting that she has. I have a lot of chocolate now. I am planning on using it to make some good moonshine. Unfortunately she has stopped buying it. Fortunately because the doctor says she will be a diabetic soon and is only 4 points away from being one.
<SiFuh_>
ppetrov^: Are you French?
<SiFuh_>
Hahaha I have a French friend who refuses to go. He hates it. He has never tried it. He just hates it
<SiFuh_>
An Italian cheesemaker has been found dead after more than 15,000 wheels of cheese fell from their shelves in his company’s warehouse, Italian media outlets reported on Monday. The 74-year-old man had received multiple awards for his produce.An Italian cheesemaker has been found dead after more than 15,000 wheels of cheese fell from their shelves in his company’s warehouse, Italian media outlets reported
<SiFuh_>
on Monday. The 74-year-old man had received multiple awards for his produce.
<SiFuh_>
ppetrov^: No idea
<ppetrov^>
heh
<SiFuh_>
Sad news
<SiFuh_>
Would hate to buy this cheese after it crushed the life out of him.
<lavaball>
it's always upsetting when you lose the match to cheese.
<SiFuh_>
I don't want to laugh at that but I kind of did
<lavaball>
question is did you get my full meaning there.
<SiFuh_>
Probably not
<lavaball>
i heard the term first in star craft.
<lavaball>
it's when you make some weird ass play like all detonation units from the start and stuff like that.
<lavaball>
i don't even know the proper names.
<SiFuh_>
Definitely not
<lavaball>
see? that's another thing the comedian has to watch out for. the right joke for the right crowd.
<SiFuh_>
I don't even know what is a star craft. Assuming it is a game
<lavaball>
yeah, big thing in the 90s. the second one also went pretty big.
<lavaball>
especially in south korea.
<SiFuh_>
Well a pro comedian would have taught you that in a few lines
<lavaball>
they hold like huge tournaments. and the bitches love themselves some starcraft nerds there.
<SiFuh_>
Remember in the 90's there was a game called Star Craft? Don't worry if you don't know. The game basically was ... played ... this.. that ... anyways there was this phrase ....
<lavaball>
well, since this is a tech channel it was reasonable to assume you knew.
<SiFuh_>
Games are not really tech to be honest
<SiFuh_>
More like addictive art ;-)
<lavaball>
either way, you yourself said you laughed. so as usual i calculated correctly.
<SiFuh_>
It just sounded funny ;-)
<lavaball>
that would be the back up joke in there.
<SiFuh_>
lavaball: you trying to learn to be a comedian?
<lavaball>
learn? baby, i was born this way.
<SiFuh_>
Retarded?
<lavaball>
i gave my first lecture about my at the local university at 25.
<SiFuh_>
Hahaha comedy has rules
<SiFuh_>
Ignore the modern rules and stick to the rules before the left destroyed everything
<lavaball>
not really. it's more an anything goes field.
<lavaball>
the left were the ones who introduced rules.
<lavaball>
what are you talking about?
<SiFuh_>
Original comedy has a punch line that lasts until the end.
<SiFuh_>
You make a joke about something stupid or dumb and forget about it. Then follow your topic. By the time you get to the end bring up the first joke again. The audience then goes beserk
<SiFuh_>
It's insanely stupid but it is the way it is done.
<SiFuh_>
You ever heard of Rhod Gilbert?
<lavaball>
maybe?
<lavaball>
i don't know.
<SiFuh_>
He is my most favorite comedian
<SiFuh_>
I have watched his stuff many times and he still makes me laugh. Even though I know it
<SiFuh_>
His latest has cussing in it though. I wouldn't show that to my mother
<SiFuh_>
All his earlier videos are fine, my family loves them
<SiFuh_>
That other video of the millenials.. I actually don't have a contact list on the phone. I still use an address book with numbers written in by pencil. If you call me and I don't recognise your number, I ain't answering. I will check the address book and if your number isn't there, I won't call you back
<SiFuh_>
I still carry a notepad and pen/pencil with me to jot down notes
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<lavaball>
you wanna have a go?
<lavaball>
i already said i never had a phone.
<SiFuh_>
Mine is a Satellite phone
<lavaball>
mine is a no phone.
<SiFuh_>
Doesn't work inside a building. I need to be outside
<SiFuh_>
I am using Thuraya
<lavaball>
no idea what that is.
<SiFuh_>
I think I spent $2 in 3 years in calls to my parents in Australia
<SiFuh_>
That is like less than a minute worth of calls.
<lavaball>
i don't know why you are still talking about this. you have a phone, i don't.
<lavaball>
wanna talk cars?
<SiFuh_>
Satellite phones are super expensive.
<lavaball>
i do'nt have one of those either.
<lavaball>
once the real people got contagious i stopped hitch hiking and walked the 8 miles to the store.
<lavaball>
now i have a bicycle.
<SiFuh_>
Sure. I have a Land Cruiser 70 series Short Wheel Base ;-)
<lavaball>
which i need, becuaes i have to get into the city which is 15 miles away.
<lavaball>
let's talk food. how often do you eat a day?
<SiFuh_>
I have a 4 hour window where I eat. Then I don't eat again for another 20/24 hours
<lavaball>
good. i don't eat sugar. i don't drink alcohol. in fact i'm from veganistan.
<lavaball>
no processed what so ever.
<SiFuh_>
I don't touch sugar but I drink beer like water
<lavaball>
every months i fast for 3 days.
<SiFuh_>
If you eat rice, bread, potatoes or pasta you are basically eating sugar.
<lavaball>
how about work. you employed?
<SiFuh_>
Your body converts the starches into sugar.
<lavaball>
well, i don't. guess i'm good then.
<SiFuh_>
Then the yeast in your intestinal tract converts the sugar into alcohol.
<SiFuh_>
So blah blah
<lavaball>
what?
<lavaball>
converts it into alcohol?
<lavaball>
what what waht?
<SiFuh_>
I am unemployed. Government will not let me work here
<SiFuh_>
I didn't stutter. Your yeast converts sugar into alcohol
<lavaball>
i do'nt have to work. with 38 i started a business so my lady friend had something put in her cv.
<lavaball>
that is a rare medical condition.
<lavaball>
normal intestens don't do that.
<SiFuh_>
Only an idiot would beleive they don't consume alcohol. My friend's father would say "Alcohol has never touched my lips". That is acceptable unless he was drinking old fruit juice then it did
<lavaball>
i don't consume fruits either. fructose. you understand. so no juices.
<SiFuh_>
No, it is not rare. Rare is autobrewery syndrome where the body produces too much alcohol they are drunk without drinking
<ppetrov^>
> Then the yeast in your intestinal tract converts the sugar into alcohol. < dude, that's not the case
<SiFuh_>
You eat vegetables
<ppetrov^>
how much yeast do you think lives in your intestinal tract compared to the bacteria
<SiFuh_>
ppetrov^: How so? It's a medical fact
<ppetrov^>
when you eat sugar you do not get drunk
<SiFuh_>
Depends on your diet
<SiFuh_>
Sugar eaters have more yeast and candida than anything else. The balance is offset.
<ppetrov^>
can you refer me to some source of this claim?
<ppetrov^>
i am genuinly curious
<SiFuh_>
Google Candida
<ppetrov^>
i am
<SiFuh_>
Most people have more than natural. A vegetarian like lavaball will have less.
<lavaball>
vegan. i have no pleasure in my life.
<SiFuh_>
lavaball: I am probably a 90% vegetarian but I am not a vegetarian
<ppetrov^>
k, please send me a link describing yeast converting sugar in your intestines into alcohol
<lavaball>
i don't care. eat what you like.
<SiFuh_>
ppetrov^: Yeast converts sugar into alcohol. That is a fact.
<ppetrov^>
and you automatically assume that it works like this in your gut?
<SiFuh_>
ppetrov^: of course it does. How do you think Yeast survives?
<ppetrov^>
that's what i was looking for
<ppetrov^>
thanks
<SiFuh_>
Yeast needs sugar to feed on an acidic environment.
<lavaball>
again, that's a rare medical condition.
<ppetrov^>
Only a few cases of auto brewery syndrome have been reported in the last several decades.
<lavaball>
nice, someone who reads.
<SiFuh_>
You eat starches and sugars and eventually some of that makes it way into your intestinal tract. The yeast that lives there breaks it down into err alcohol and CO2
<SiFuh_>
As I said that is the extreme version. But every human on the planet makes alcohol in their body when they eat anything sugary or starchy. Fortunately for most of us it is very limited and doesn't affect our everyday life.
<SiFuh_>
Ethanol is so common that all life on earth has the ability to remove it at super speeds. In fact if you drink methanol you will die. If you make it to hospital in time they will actually give you vodka (Ethanol) to keep you alive. Because your body chooses to remove the ethanol faster than methanol.
<SiFuh_>
If you were to remove methanol faster you will go blind within 30 hours and then probably die.
<ppetrov^>
yep
<SiFuh_>
Alcohol is so common in nature outside of the body that you can watch drunk birds after a sun showe
<SiFuh_>
shower*
<SiFuh_>
Lorikeets in Australia drink the water from the flowers. The nectare, yeast and water creates the perfect brewery
<ppetrov^>
ye ye, or bears eating fermented apples
<SiFuh_>
If you want to see how common alcohol is. Take any fruit, any grains. Wash then and put them in water and wait a few days. You will see bubbles because the natural yeast is consuming the simple sugars and converting it into alcohol.
<SiFuh_>
Yeah same
<ppetrov^>
man, i know about fermentation
<ppetrov^>
i see you find it fascinating
<ppetrov^>
:)
<SiFuh_>
Humans cannot digets vegetables. This is actually fascinating. We don't have multiple stomachs like a cow that ferments the grass then pukes it back and chews it. Heh, drunk cattle.
<SiFuh_>
I make alcohol and sell it.
<ppetrov^>
we cannot break down cellulose
<SiFuh_>
Technically I am a moonshiner
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<ppetrov^>
cattle have bacteria in their gut that do that for them
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<SiFuh_>
We can't break down pretty much most of what we eat. Fortunately we have a plethora of life inside us that does that work for us. Including... yeast
<ppetrov^>
cellulose is very close to glucose/starch, simply a certain bond is "the other way round"
<SiFuh_>
Cows use yeast that is on the grass they eat. As well as bacteria
<SiFuh_>
They basically ferment the cud in a special chamber and puke it back into their mouths and chew away again at it before moving it to the second stomach.
<SiFuh_>
Imagine having to re-chew your own vomit. :-P
<ppetrov^>
heh
<SiFuh_>
I can take rice, wash it. Put in a cup of water and the next day it is turning into alcohol
<SiFuh_>
It will taste very sour but you can get drunk on it.
<SiFuh_>
We use this in lots of Asian cooking and in making bread
<SiFuh_>
Yeast eats the glucose in the bread or sugar if you choose to add that unnecessary ingredient.
<SiFuh_>
You warm the bread dough and it rises. Then you bake it and it kills the yeast and evaporates the alcohol.
<SiFuh_>
The reason the bread is rising is because the yeast is farting CO2 after eating the sugar or glucose and pissing out alcohol.
<SiFuh_>
ppetrov^: That auto-brewery syndrome usually affects people that do or drink homebrew alcohol. They didn't drink a pasterized version of it so the yeast was still alive when they consumed it. It affects those with high sugar/starch diets
<lavaball>
usually affects? when there were only a handful of cases in the last decades?!
<SiFuh_>
The cure is worse though. They find a person in your family that eats the same as you and take their shit and put it in a capsule and ask you to eat it.
<SiFuh_>
lavaball: recorded cases
<ppetrov^>
heh
<SiFuh_>
Just stop eating junk food and sugar.
<ppetrov^>
there are pills made from extracts of feces of healthy people, meant to repopulate the gut microbiome of people who either underwent severe antibiotics treatment, or had a gut transplant or sth else
<SiFuh_>
Yes
<SiFuh_>
It is pretty gross
<SiFuh_>
I drink my own beer and I don't usually pasteurize
<SiFuh_>
But I have a mostly vegetarian diet with an almost zero sugar diet. I do eat starches though
<SiFuh_>
I am not a fruit eater to be honest
<SiFuh_>
What is funny I find is that the inevitable is inevitable. You can eat fruit and the yeast in your gut turns it into alcohol or you can leave it to rot and the yeast turns it into alcohol.