jaeger changed the topic of #crux to: CRUX 3.7 | Homepage: https://crux.nu/ | Ports: https://crux.nu/portdb/ https://crux.ninja/portdb/ | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/crux/
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<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: thunderbird-bin: updated to version 115.2.0
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<r0ni> it appears something went wrong with the gitea instance on crux.nu?
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<samsep10l> hello! anyone knows if you can change the signature default file on a port collection? for example, in my collection, pkgmk -rs command expect a crux-port.pub in /etc/ports, but can I change that file for other, for example, samsep10l.pub?
<samsep10l> the default behaviour for pkgmk is use the root directory to search for the public key, if I understand the command well.
<SiFuh> You mean generate your own key and sign with that? pkgmk -us -sk <LOCATION of the KEY.sec> -d
<SiFuh> Seems strange to rename crux-port.pub to samsep10l.pub
<samsep10l> yeah, well I lost both the key (except the public which I host in my github repo) and I though on refresh both keys (and store both well).
<samsep10l> the rename thing is to have some consistency (I hope I wrote the word well), since yesterday I saw that when I sync the repo, download the crux-ports.pub, and I wanted to change it to samsep10l.pub to have my username same as the public key file
<samsep10l> so far I know, if my user repo is called 'crux-ports', both secret key and pub key must be named crux-ports.{pub,sec} as well?
<samsep10l> pwd
<samsep10l> sorry wrong window!
<jaeger> Yes, that's the case
<jaeger> Most user repos seem to use the repo name as the directory name
<samsep10l> that's what I though, what a mistake I made there back in the day haha
<SiFuh> jaeger: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 are not yet built for the 6.1.X kernels. They recommended to go checkout the kernel source :-P
<SiFuh> I can get it to be found and the firmware loaded and the intel module but that is as far as it gets. It doesn't show up.
<jaeger> noted
<mrms> Hello, I'm trying to install crux an I'm having some problems. I followed the guide, set up and mounted my drives and when I ran `setup`, I got a message saying /media/crux was not found. It seems like other files are missing from my system too. For example pkgadd can't find /var/lib/pkg. Did I miss some step?
<samsep10l> mrms: hello, did you mount your root partition under /mnt?
<mrms> root partition of the system I'm installing? Yes
<jaeger> Does /media/crux have anything in it?
<jaeger> It *should* contain all the packages on the ISO
<mrms> It doesn't even exist
<samsep10l> what's is the installation media? an usb? or cd/dvd?
<jaeger> Sounds like the media isn't fully booting properly, then
<mrms> It's an USB
<jaeger> Do you have any errors during the boot process, or a screenshot/picture?
<mrms> I don't recall anything, but I will try rebooting again.
<SiFuh> It can be RAM, not correctly burnt to USB, the USB stick itself or the USB port
<mrms> I used ventoy to make the USB, which could be the culprit. Although I never had issues with ventoy before.
<samsep10l> I usually burn the with dd and runs fine, maybe you should tried it or use another burn program.
<samsep10l> the iso*
<mrms> I can see an error message about failure to load iwlifi, but that is hardly the issue. Though it's possible some errors are in the scrollback.
<mrms> I can try burning another usb using dd.
<jaeger> Ah, currently ventoy doesn't work with the crux iso
<jaeger> It's on the list to fix but hasn't been done yet
<jaeger> For now I'd recommend using dd or pv
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<mrms> Trying dd now
<SiFuh> mrms: I have never got it working with ventoy. In fact, same error you mentioned.
<jaeger> The fix has been discussed but not yet implemented
<jaeger> Also, doesn't hurt to verify the ISO after you write it with dd, just in case
<mrms> What do you mean by verify?
<mrms> It works after writing with dd. Thank for all the help!
<samsep10l> great! you're welcome! :)
<jaeger> Something like this:
<jaeger> But if it works already, no big deal :)
<mrms> Oh I usually just verify the file before flashing.
<mrms> But this is a good idea
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<farkuhar> r0ni: the gitea instance is responsive again, now that some disk space has been reclaimed on crux.nu and the gitea service restarted.
<farkuhar> but if you don't need the interactivity of filing tickets and leaving comments, then I recommend switching from the rsync to the git driver for your ports -u, and running a local instance of whatever graphical git interface you prefer.
<farkuhar> a local instance of cgit served up by lighttpd is what I use. That way I'm not contributing as much to the rapid growth of apache and php log files on crux.nu.
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<r0ni> farkuhar: I'll look into some options, thx
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<farkuhar> more of a cosmetic issue than what ukky observed re: grub fonts, but I was using a public library Mac yesterday and landed on a page with this font weirdness: https://snipboard.io/51j2yk.jpg
<jaeger> weird... kinda ruins all the 'e's
<farkuhar> characters appear to be missing horizontal strokes, especially notable on the capital A and the lowercase e.
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<farkuhar> kinda undermines the claim that Apple engineers are sticklers for detail and polished appearance.
<jaeger> Unless it's the font itself :) But I'd be surprised
<farkuhar> not the font itself. Load the same page on a Windows or Linux machine, and the letters are rendered perfectly legibly.
<cruxbot> [core.git/3.7]: procps: 4.0.3 -> 4.0.4
<jaeger> Ah, ok
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: npm: 9.8.1 -> 10.0.0
<farkuhar> https://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/feature/whats-happening-with-the-amoc/ if you want to test the rendering on your own machine
<jaeger> Looks totally fine here on linux
<SiFuh> OpenBSD too
<SiFuh> farkuhar: what browser?
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<farkuhar> SiFuh: I think I was using Firefox on that Mac.
<SiFuh> Stab in the dark but maybe incorrect resolution for the display
<farkuhar> SiFuh: you're probably onto something
<SiFuh> Maybe but that image you posted should probably be the correct view then since it doesn't look like a phone or camera took it.
<farkuhar> I used the "Take screenshot" feature of the Mac's Preview app
<SiFuh> Unless Mac has a weird way of doing screen shots.
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<jaeger> I use screenshots all the time on my work mac, generally it just works fine and is simple
<jaeger> They only look weird if you scale them badly yourself
<farkuhar> That screenshot is exactly how it looked when I was sitting at the computer yesterday.
<SiFuh> Maybe the browser was scaled badly as jaeger suggested
<SiFuh> Maybe the browser's font engine is ancient ;-)
<jaeger> font gremlins
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<ukky> Some video boards, especially for gaming, do not support all listed video resolutions natively in hardware, they just do texture scaling.
<farkuhar> I'll try to test it again on a different Mac with the same OS and Firefox versions, to see if the software explanations can be ruled out in favor of ukky's hardware-based cause.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Why are you reading about this anyway? The site completely neglects to mention the flow of water under the arctic ice sheet. It is like the Canada, Makarov and Eurasian basins don't even exist.
<farkuhar> SiFuh: it's background research to help with interpreting the paper https://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-023-39810-w
<SiFuh> HAHAHAHA
<SiFuh> What a load of garbage. That's as bad as Bill Gates wanting to cut down trees and bury them so that dead trees don't cause excessive CO2.
<SiFuh> Greenhouse gases are CO2 and they are essential for plants. When I was in school it was Lead in the fuel, then it was CO (carbon monoxide from cars) the it was CFC's from refrigerators. Then one day it was CO2 and I was like "Ah they insane? CO2 is what we breath out and plants breath in. Surely they mean CO" Then later it would seem it was only CO2
<farkuhar> Maybe that Firefox browser had the same biases as SiFuh and decided to render the font so illegibly only when I navigated to that site. All the other sites I was visiting didn't trigger the font gremlins within Firefox.
<SiFuh> This paper is written by an organization under the UN
<SiFuh> Heh, many of the references are UN sponsored. With the exception of a couple of people who worked for DARPA and NASA ;-)
<SiFuh> farkuhar: How am I biased? I didn't lie. I said the actual truth. This paper is very biased.
<farkuhar> SiFuh: dismissing the conclusions of a paper because of the sponsoring organization is a form of ad hominem attack. It's a better debate tactic to address a specific claim in the paper, and say what they're conveniently leaving out.
<SiFuh> No, I am dismissing it because it is ludicrous to blame warm currents on breathing animals and humans. Imagine life without CO2? You can't fart (small portion of the gas released is CO2), or breath out, no animal can survive holding their breath either. No beer, no whiskey, no wine. No yeast. No plant life on Earth can survive because they need to breath in CO2 to survive and without CO2 they can't produce
<SiFuh> oxygen for you to breath.
<SiFuh> And just because a band of badge wearing buffoons with some fancy made up title and made up organisation being funded by a political body says you must do something doesn't make it truth.
<farkuhar> SiFuh: take a look at the Keeling curve. Periodic year-to-year fluctuations in the CO2 concentration is what you'd expect from breathing animals and humans coexisting alongside plant species that grow and die on annual cycles. But the Keeling curve shows this periodic behaviour overlaid on top of a long-term increasing trend, which is hard to reconcile with your casual dismissal that nothing is happening.
<SiFuh> Have a look at the list of what Bill Gates is pushing. In the name of climate change. Family planning, vaccines, GMO food, GMO mosquitoes, Synthetic beef, fart bags for cows, blocking out the sun, chopping down forests, burying plants and trees, synthetic medicine and the list goes on.. All _unnatural_. What is his problem with nature?
<SiFuh> The keeling curve is flawed fromt he start. I saw it. You zoom into a basket ball's surface and it becomes flat. It works the other way around too. If they showed the full data instead of zooming into a miniscule portion you'd see it was not as scary as they make it out to be
<SiFuh> Apparently dinosaurs must never existed according to the Keeling Curve. Maybe they did and they were smaller than ants ;-)
<farkuhar> The Keeling curve does not pretend to be a historical reconstruction; it only plots the data measured with instruments. If you allow proxy data to inform your best estimates of paleoclimate, then here's a playful rendition of the story you could tell: https://xkcd.com/1732/
<SiFuh> You ever trade on the stock market?
<farkuhar> Not directly
<SiFuh> You understand that if I show a 5 minute chart going up, it can be a 1 year chart going down?
<SiFuh> My greenhouse usually sits around 45 to 50 Celsius. My chillis battle the temperature but those that survive grow to be strong.
<SiFuh> And my beer CO2 waste gets put into the greenhouse to help them flourish.
<SiFuh> Global cooling became global warming became climate change (Seems they gave up and just made an umbrella term to cover everything)
<SiFuh> Weren't we suppose to be frozen by 2020?
<farkuhar> No one is blaming the CO2 output of beer breweries for the recent trend in global temperature, so you don't have to take personal offense on account of your hobby.
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<SiFuh> CO2 from beer is the same CO2 from breathing
<SiFuh> Unless they have different names like Bob or John or Jane ;-)
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