13:45 <ppetrov^> uwumeowmeownyaa, what's the deal with the guy and why does he have the urge to explain stuff that everyone knows

13:45 <ppetrov^> te.g.: he Firefox (a modern web-browser), the Internet (the global network of interconnected computers)

13:45 <ppetrov^> maybe that's AI?

13:47 <SiFuh> I think it is zorz^'s long lost twin brother.

13:49 <SiFuh> Water level 133.49m has exceeded ALERT level (133.33m) by 0.16m

13:50 <SiFuh> I plan to go Jungle tomorrow so I have to monitor the river leves as it is monsoon season.

13:50 <SiFuh> Might have to cancel since there will be storms for the next 7 days predicted

14:56 <ukky> ppetrov^: I believe uwumeowmeownyaa is AI bot. No human would have to explain to us what Firefox or Internet is.

14:57 <ppetrov^> ukky, so what would be the purpose

14:58 <ukky> ppetrov^: trolling

15:01 <SiFuh> Well a bot should at least have understood why fonts became boxes

15:01 <SiFuh> But I do see what ppetrov^ means.

15:04 <ppetrov^> so, that's why "CRUX GNU/Linux"

15:04 <ppetrov^> maybe ban it?

15:04 <SiFuh> Or just a retard

15:04 <ppetrov^> i don't believe that

15:04 <ukky> SiFuh: Could be just a retard

15:05 <SiFuh> 21:53:13 [SiFuh> uwumeowmeownyaa: Did you need to shrink your terminal font down because when you type the name CRUX incorrectly it is too long?

15:05 <SiFuh> 06:11:43 [uwumeowmeownyaa> SiFuh: I only use monospace fonts, so everything takes up the same space.

15:06 <SiFuh> That's a long delay to reply

15:06 <ukky> Or, it could be 10 y.o. wannabe hacker

15:07 <SiFuh> That could explain the 9 hour delay. :-)

15:09 <SiFuh> ppetrov^: ukky: Let me grab his entire comments. I will dpaste

15:12 <SiFuh> ukky: ppetrov^: I erased every join and part but left the top one because the Russian IP stays the same. https://dpaste.com/5J22VUKA9.txt

15:13 <SiFuh> "Indeed I am. Like sudden fresh salty sea breeze in a scorching August afternoon, it has been bringing me much bliss since the very first day of my having delved into its multifarious yet simplistic nature." Maybe ppetrov^ is correct.

15:18 <ppetrov^> SiFuh, Russian IP and he has no Cyrillic support

15:18 <ppetrov^> k

15:18 <ppetrov^> 09:36:56 [uwumeowmeownyaa> I hate "BSD" so much it's unreal.

15:19 <ppetrov^> 21:46:41 [uwumeowmeownyaa> I hate Go so much it's unreal.

15:19 <ppetrov^> right...

15:19 <SiFuh> ppetrov^: remiliascarlet brought that to my attention

15:19 <ukky> SiFuh: yeah, that quote looks like AI-generated

15:19 <SiFuh> How can anyone HATE BSD because of some clown from Arch Linux?

15:19 <SiFuh> ukky: What if he is typing in Russian on another machine using an AI translator?

15:23 <SiFuh> ppetrov^: He used "on" should have used "in" I had to install a library that was not present on ports.

15:23 <SiFuh> But apart from that, spelling is fantastic

15:24 <SiFuh> And this ``listorphans`` option of ``prt-get``

15:24 <SiFuh> I thought was interesting. why use double tilde ``

15:27 <SiFuh> We should get remiliascarlet to poke around at it too.

15:30 <SiFuh> lavaball says it looks artifical ppetrov^

15:31 <SiFuh> farkuhar: ppetrov^ thinks this might be some kind of bot or AI bot. https://dpaste.com/5J22VUKA9.txt

15:34 <farkuhar> SiFuh: the double backtick (``) is used in LaTeX for opening quotes, but then you write closing quotes with a double apostrophe (''). Nroff and groff use the escape codes \(oq and \(cq instead. PmWiki has its own use for doubled or tripled apostrophes, namely to make text italic or bold, respectively.

15:34 <SiFuh> farkuhar: Understood

15:35 <farkuhar> beerman complained about PmWiki's idiotic markup choices in this area, preferring to load a plugin that allows him to write in Markdown instead.

15:37 <farkuhar> As for why uwumeowmeownyaa used the double backtick, I have no idea. He or she is obviously not following the PmWiki precedent. If it's intended for processing by LaTeX, then the result will not be what English readers are accustomed to seeing in print.

15:42 <SiFuh> HAHAHAHA "The other day, I broke my glasses and I didn't have time to get them replaced. So now I am drinking out my hands"

15:43 <farkuhar> I agree with beerman that the PmWiki syntax gets unwieldy when you want to make text both bold and italic: '''''example'''''. Off-by-one errors in the number of enclosing apostrophes will produce the wrong effect.

15:48 <SiFuh> remiliascarlet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFCJLshbNdE This is what I was talking about the other month about the way English can mean different things

17:00 <farkuhar> ppetrov^: Should we operate under the assumption that an AI bot will be programmed to obey Asimov's three laws? Or are AI bots exempted from the laws meant to govern embodied robots?

17:03 <zorz> now you see why i dont read the manuals... bloddy backticks and/or apostrophes

17:03 <SiFuh> zorz: I think it is because you can't actually read ;-)

17:04 <ppetrov^> farkuhar, no

17:04 <zorz> SiFuh: :)

17:05 <zorz> ppetrov^: 'lo

17:10 <farkuhar> ppetrov^: okay, then you're being wildly optimistic that uwumeowmeownyaa will answer you truthfully, when you ask directly in #crux whether he/she/it is an AI bot.

17:12 <zorz> heh

17:14 <farkuhar> zorz: you wouldn't be reading the manuals in their source code form anyway. The processing engine (PmWiki, groff, LaTeX, ...) will take the markup and render it into a friendlier format.

17:16 <farkuhar> now if you're responsible for updating the manuals (say for the upcoming CRUX 3.8 release), then you have to get used to all the backticks and apostrophes. But the downstream users of the manual shouldn't need to worry about any of that markup.

17:25 <zorz> farkuhar: :)

17:26 <zorz> farkuhar: when 3.8?

17:38 <ppetrov^> farkuhar, ARE WE THERE YET