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<SiFuh> remiliascarlet: Good thing ppetrov^ wasn't online when I sent that :-P
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<farkuhar> Under $PASSWORD_STORE_DIR, one of my saved passwords triggers memories of a sci-fi novel I read only once, within the past 15 years. I can't recall the title or the author, only a few disconnected details of the characters and the setting. If I could recover the creation date of the original saved password, I could establish the latest date of my reading the novel.
<SiFuh> Read a novel?
<farkuhar> Unfortunately I've copied the contents of $PASSWORD_STORE_DIR from one machine to the next, and some of the intermediate filesystems don't retain details like the creation date of the original file.
<SiFuh> Only novels I ever read, was by force.
<farkuhar> So the next best approach is to ask on scifi.stackexchange.com or some other forum devoted to identifying authors or titles based on fragments that the readers still remember.
<SiFuh> I'd prefer to read a non-fiction book about Onychophora or Tunga penetrans than read a stupid imaginary story.
<serpente> all stories are imaginary, even your orangotango fucking one
<SiFuh> What is my orangotango?
<serpente> i only read fiction story, hate those based on real shit
<serpente> real shit stinks, even in a book
<SiFuh> That's weird
<SiFuh> I can imagine you get bitten by a snake, and you need to flip through a book on snakes to find out which one bit you before you die and you demand a fiction book like Dune. Hahaha
<SiFuh> I was watching those old David Attenborough series about animals and I realise that most of the shit that he says is all fiction.
<SiFuh> Wish I knew that when I was a kid. Fucker was misleading us all a long.
<SiFuh> along
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Did you scare away zorz?
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<farkuhar> SiFuh: It looks like he was just waiting for you to mention his name, and then he joined us again.
<SiFuh> farkuhar: Yep, bastard guy he is hahaha
<SiFuh> Shadow stalking IRC ;-)
<SiFuh> farkuhar: I will go to KL on the weekend. Want to check out some off-roading shops
<SiFuh> My wife booked the hotel where everyone who works there knows me and treats me like their best friend.
<SiFuh> Later will go to the pub for some beers before sleeping and heading back to Pahang
<SiFuh> Shame you never got to see KL.
<SiFuh> You could have be chauffered by Mafia. ;-)
<zorz_> Mafia Mafia
<SiFuh> Oh the EBE Bovine Spawn has arrived
<SiFuh> Thought you were abducted again and they were probing your butt sphincter
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<SiFuh> farkuhar: The Aunt says "Her [Wife's] mother hates men who drink beer *CRACK* (Beer opens) is that so? She ain't my mother and I care zero" Now they have two rules. You want to invite me to a restaurant. It must sell beer. Even her colleagues and contractors know now. And even better. My beer must be ordered straight away. Before any food is ordered
<SiFuh> It is funny to see the father or mother ordering beer the moment they sit down for me.
<SiFuh> I can still be on the way and arrive to see a beer for me.
<SiFuh> The power of the Alpha :-P
<SiFuh> The family has had a bad run in with alcoholics. Lazy and violent. But they seem to realize now that it doesn't apply to all people.
<kh1b> hi
<SiFuh> Hey brother
<kh1b> how's everything been going on ?
<SiFuh> Freaking awesome
<SiFuh> As always
<SiFuh> How about there?
<kh1b> ups and downs
<kh1b> but good overall
<SiFuh> What is your definition of downs?
<SiFuh> For me downs are a step up, a learning experience I hate but have to do and glad to do.
<kh1b> sometimes you know what you have to do to advance in life and dont do it
<kh1b> and to your vices
<kh1b> and stick*
<SiFuh> I refuse to stick to any vices
<SiFuh> Since July 11 2009. I have decided to follow my morality and not what needs to be done.
<kh1b> sometimes the good old reflexes wont let you
<SiFuh> I survived
<kh1b> yeah that is true freedom
<kh1b> you either are a slave to moral consistent behavior or your vices
<SiFuh> A friend of mine screwed me over many times. He's now fucked. I pity him and the worst part. He can't remember me. 15 years of history wiped from his mind. I feel so sad for him.
<SiFuh> Slave?
<SiFuh> Morality makes you free
<SiFuh> If I lie or steal or cheat. That is something that will weigh on my mind forever.
<SiFuh> If I know I did what is morally right. I am free
<kh1b> yeah that is what i meant
<SiFuh> However, I my friend didn't and apparently he is free because 15 years of his life was erased.
<SiFuh> I don't beleive it though. I think he is lying.
<SiFuh> I think he doesn't want to be seen as a blubbering idiot that can't talk in a wheel chair. I think forgetting my existence is a new lie he created
<kh1b> then the question arise where does this morality come from? for you
<kh1b> and is it an objective source
<SiFuh> I hear the question alot
<SiFuh> Yet people of small mind don't understand that doing something that negatively affects others is immoral.
<SiFuh> Look at the last 5 commandments in the bible. They are to do with us. Humans. The moral code is plain and clear. You do negative you are immoral.
<kh1b> but how are concluding that hurting people is bad?
<SiFuh> Because it is
<SiFuh> Ask them how they fell
<SiFuh> feel*
<SiFuh> We are all God's children
<kh1b> so its subjective
<SiFuh> No it is law.
<kh1b> so is law
<SiFuh> If I take from you, I hurt you and that makes me immoral
<SiFuh> No I am talking about God's laws. Not human laws
<kh1b> then yeah i go with on that
<kh1b> i go with you*
<SiFuh> Well, I learned that in July 11 2009 and my life had a lot of suffering (Karma?) but eventually my life became quite good
<kh1b> its either that or nihilism
<SiFuh> I'm an anarchist
<SiFuh> Nihilism is certain death
<kh1b> that's mostly political we are talking theology
<SiFuh> But the media portrays anarchism as chaos and violence. But this is far from the truth
<kh1b> yeah if your life has no meaning
<kh1b> then nothing matter
<SiFuh> Yes anarchism falls into religious theology
<kh1b> right or wrong become fiction
<SiFuh> No you are now preaching the government indoctrinated version
<kh1b> what are the premises of anarchism from that sense
<kh1b> SiFuh: yeah and those are subjective
<kh1b> nietzsche is a great example of this
<SiFuh> Anarchism is when you can live and coincide with others and you don't need a governing body.
<SiFuh> Governments tell you it is bad and chaotic because it means the Government will be abolished
<SiFuh> Governments hate you but need you. They feed off of you. They enslave the people, demand you give them your lunch money and tell you that you need them or the world will become violent.
<kh1b> i am saying this because i see a lot inconsistency on this new atheism discourses
<SiFuh> Think about this... How many of us want to fight? Who is responsible for wars? Whow doesn't fight but demands you fight? Governments have done nothing but make problems worse and kill our children.
<SiFuh> I am not athiest
<kh1b> yeah i see
<SiFuh> I don't see athiests as friends because they are immoral by their own cause and they have zero values
<kh1b> and eventualy leads to nihilism
<SiFuh> Oh yeah
<SiFuh> Because morals are taught by parents. Parents got them from theirs.. and eventually leads to community/culture or religion.
<SiFuh> athiests are quite selfish and it is usally me, me, me, and no one else
<kh1b> yeah that is how its done
<kh1b> but i am more intrested on answring the question 'what is truth?'
<SiFuh> When I emmigrated from Australia, I was asked if I am an athiest, Muslim, Christian or Buddhist. No other option. Huh?
<kh1b> and how do we get to it
<SiFuh> I have Hindu friends
<SiFuh> kh1b: What truth do you seek?
<kh1b> The truth, what is everything based on, what's the bedrock of it all
<SiFuh> Religious truth is more difficult. People get blinded by their faith.
<SiFuh> Well in Christianity it was based on love. Everyone regardless was the child of God. Since you exist because of God you must be treated well, respected, loved.
<kh1b> like the journey that immanuel kant or al-ghazali went through
<kh1b> of trying to determine what will stay if we doubt every belief
<kh1b> what will remain
<SiFuh> Do you know Imran N. Hosein?
<kh1b> no
<SiFuh> I drank a beer with him.
<SiFuh> He didn't he is Muslim. But I drank beer with him
<SiFuh> He told me one thing that I knew already but was glad to hear.
<kh1b> idk him, he is a preacher?
<SiFuh> We came from Adam and Eve
<SiFuh> Yeah a preacher
<SiFuh> We came from Adam and Eve, you and me. We have different beliefs but we are still family.
<kh1b> yeah
<SiFuh> So, you are my brother in a way
<kh1b> exactly
<SiFuh> My wife is Chinese. She grew up here and she can't believe the shit I know about how to deal with the Malaysian Muslims.
<SiFuh> She has a Chinese mentality.
<SiFuh> I spent half my life with Malay Muslims and they are freaking awesome
<kh1b> different cultures i guess
<SiFuh> It is strange though
<SiFuh> I lived with them and she grew up with them. But her Chinese bullshit governs her life.
<SiFuh> I sent a message to a Malay Muslim friend at 4am. She was so angry.
<SiFuh> But the channel became alive. She was so shocked.
<kh1b> islam has such a great brotherhood all around the world
<SiFuh> She was angry because she has whatsapp on her phone and I don't so I used her phone
<SiFuh> Yes and no. The problem with Islam is there is no Unity.
<SiFuh> I can name only one religion that is unified
<SiFuh> Jehovah's Witnesses
<SiFuh> And I admire their ways because they can build a hall in 1 day (Quick build) and they can feed 30,000 people in less than 30 minutes
<SiFuh> Even the US military can't do that
<kh1b> idc about how muslims act i see islam on what it preaches
<SiFuh> You might like emmett1 then
<kh1b> it had a golden age and its gone
<SiFuh> He is a close friend and a CRUX user and the founder of Venom Linux which he no longer uses.
<SiFuh> He is ... I can't remember the word. But a devout Muslim
<SiFuh> He teachers also
<SiFuh> teaches*
<kh1b> oh realy, that sounds good
<SiFuh> Yes, I think most of my friends are Muslim
<SiFuh> We have disputes but we love each other.
<kh1b> i see islam a super practical especialy in this postmodern world we live in
<SiFuh> I posted a 'bum bag' just recently to my friend in Kelantan. I was at the market buying Halal meat for me and my wife's dog. I saw the bag and said to the wife "On our way out if it is still here, I am buying this and sending to him" And we did
<SiFuh> kh1b: I don't agree but at the same time, the conservatives values I do agree with.
<SiFuh> I think the conservative values are important. And I love the fact that NGO's tried to bring LGTV shit here and the Malay Muslim community went "FUCK NO!" and made it illegal
<kh1b> especially to preserve the nuclear family
<SiFuh> YES!
<SiFuh> 100% agree
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<SiFuh> I left again?
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<SiFuh> Welcome back me
<SiFuh> kh1b: I will be devestated and disgusted if LGTV shit comes here.
<kh1b> everything that is forbinden is to preserve that alcohol gambling adultery...
<kh1b> welcome back
<SiFuh> Hmm
<SiFuh> You know I have the reciped for the alcohol that Mohammad use to drink?
<SiFuh> It was in his later life that it was banned
<kh1b> doesnt get you drunk
<SiFuh> Oh it does
<SiFuh> It was made from dates.
<kh1b> yeah i know it
<SiFuh> Here in Malaysia during certain times they give dates for free and I always ferment it :-P
<SiFuh> I follow the original recipe. Except I carbonate it.
<SiFuh> You can try if you ever come here.
<kh1b> the drunk part is forbidden, so i am sure he wasnt drinking alcohol
<SiFuh> I said later days of his life
<SiFuh> Early days is a different story
<SiFuh> But yes. I think drunk is stupid
<kh1b> how 'later days'?
<SiFuh> I drink all the time. But I refuse and even worse hate being drunk
<SiFuh> kh1b: He drank a lot
<kh1b> and what's your source ?
<SiFuh> But towards the end he banned it
<kh1b> ah ok
<SiFuh> I have the actual recipe by the way
<SiFuh> They use to dig a hole in the ground and bury the barrels. Leave a small opening for the gas to escape
<SiFuh> It was mostly dates and herbs
<SiFuh> It tastes great
<SiFuh> But I turned mine into beer to carbonate it.
<SiFuh> I heard the reason it was banned because someone got drunk and beheaded some cattle.
<SiFuh> An act that was Haram
<kh1b> revelation in the quran
<SiFuh> I was told it by a Muslim scholar
<SiFuh> There is a revelation in the Quran?
<kh1b> i meant when the Quran was descended
<kh1b> but it has some predictions
<SiFuh> Ahh okay
<SiFuh> I bought a copy a copy and read maybe 1/4 before I moved back to Asia
<SiFuh> Still in my bedroom at home in Australia
<SiFuh> How did 'a copy' get repeated? Hmm
<kh1b> do yo u mean preservation
<SiFuh> kh1b: I have told many of my friends that I can never convert because I don't accept death contracts.
<kh1b> what contracts?
<SiFuh> So if you are born Muslim here, you can never change your religion
<SiFuh> If you decided to leave Islam, you are an apostate and the only punishment is death
<SiFuh> That is a death contract.
<SiFuh> That alone says to me "Yeah, no way"
<kh1b> doesnt work exactly that way
<SiFuh> I can convert to Islam but I can't convert to any other religion here by law.
<SiFuh> Once a Muslim, always a Muslim in Malaysia
<SiFuh> And we have many court cases here about his.
<kh1b> and you believing in islam doesnt have to do with that contract its just tow monotheism which is beliving in one god and beliving in the prophet
<SiFuh> Tow?
<kh1b> two*
<SiFuh> This isn't what I am saying
<SiFuh> Governments have laws in place that make it illegal to change from Islam but you can change to Islam
<SiFuh> That is a contract
<SiFuh> This is what we call in English a 'death contract'
<kh1b> Capital punishment for apostasy can only be carried out in an Islamic state governing by the sharia
<SiFuh> I think you are not understanding
<kh1b> and if you come out announcing your apostasy and causing trouble
<kh1b> wdym then?
<SiFuh> Read it. I was quite clear
<kh1b> what does Governments have to do with your faith
<kh1b> i dont understand
<SiFuh> Ask Malaysia
<kh1b> that's a Malaysian thing then
<SiFuh> We have two courts here
<SiFuh> Shariah and Common Law
<SiFuh> If I have a problem I can choose which court
<SiFuh> If you have a problem you must choose Shariah
<kh1b> yeah and again that is also a malysian thing
<SiFuh> I can marry a Muslim woman in Australia but if I went to Malaysia, Pakistan, Iran then my marriage is nothing because I didn't covert to Islam
<SiFuh> Why should I change my beliefs over a woman I want to have children with?
<kh1b> that's in islam a muslim woman cant marry a non muslim
<SiFuh> But can, in other countries
<kh1b> as i said before i dont care about countries regulations i look at what islam say
<SiFuh> But a non-Muslim woman can marry a Muslim man
<SiFuh> And her children by birth are automatically Muslims by law.
<kh1b> only jew or a christian
<SiFuh> Who the fucks wants a Jew wife?
<kh1b> abrahamic religions
<SiFuh> They are all dead
<SiFuh> Read the bible, they were destroyed
<kh1b> islam christianity and judiasim
<SiFuh> Judaism isn't Jew
<kh1b> yeah i meant the classical def
<SiFuh> Islam, Christians and Hebrews
<SiFuh> Or Isrealites....
<kh1b> yeah that is nowdays how it works
<SiFuh> The Jews of todays are not the biblical Jews of the Judaic tribes
<kh1b> here is a great video
<SiFuh> They are evil sons of bitches pretending to be what they are not
<kh1b> and also lot zionist
<SiFuh> Hmm I will watch tomorrow maybe. I loaded already
<SiFuh> Hey, I think I know this guy
<kh1b> firas zahabi trainer of gsp
<kh1b> george saint pierre
<kh1b> and also has epic philosphical talks
<SiFuh> Yeah I know this guy
<SiFuh> I will watch maybe tomorrow
<kh1b> ok
<SiFuh> Oh shit
<SiFuh> it is 07:!3 now
<SiFuh> 13*
<SiFuh> Hah. Time flies
<SiFuh> I should be asleep 4 hours ago. HAHAHA
<SiFuh> Too late now
<kh1b> that's super late
<kh1b> ok good night
<SiFuh> Super early :-P
<kh1b> or should i say good mooring
<kh1b> morning*
<SiFuh> Nah, I already opened a new beer. I am here for awhile
<SiFuh> I need to wake early on Saturday though
<SiFuh> Got a 2 hour drive
<SiFuh> kh1b: You should come here
<kh1b> you already skipped a day of sleeping
<SiFuh> Heh
<kh1b> SiFuh: malaysia?
<SiFuh> yeah
<kh1b> yeah its seems like a great place
<SiFuh> You might be able to teach the off-cultural Muslims here a thing or two
<kh1b> didnt know much about it before talking to you
<SiFuh> It's quite fun and a lot more relaxed than other Islamaic countries I lived in
<SiFuh> Well not Khazakstan or Kyrgyzstan. They were all cunts. And full of shit
<SiFuh> You know in Kyrgyzstan they use to insult me for drinking beer. But after the prayer on Friday, they'd all get drunk in the park beside the Mosque.
<SiFuh> I was fuming mad
<SiFuh> My girlfriend says they can't see any wrong they do but they see everything you do wrong.
<kh1b> here in algeria, we have drugs that are so fucking common
<SiFuh> Here too
<SiFuh> Drugs are Halal but alcohol is Haram
<SiFuh> Acrually many here don't know the word Haram
<kh1b> both haram
<SiFuh> They say halal and non-halal
<SiFuh> kh1b: How strict?
<SiFuh> Tea, coffee, nicotine... all drugs
<SiFuh> The worst drug of all is sugar
<kh1b> nah not those
<kh1b> the hard ones
<SiFuh> Sugar is the hardest
<SiFuh> The most addictive and destructive drug on the planet is refined sugar
<kh1b> anything that fuck up with your mind
<kh1b> like alcohol
<SiFuh> Sugar
<SiFuh> You know that eating sugar causes the yeast in your gut to convert the scaps into alcohol?
<kh1b> no didnt know that
<SiFuh> I eat a zero sugar diet
<kh1b> shit my diet is like shit
<kh1b> fucked up
<kh1b> need to fix it
<SiFuh> kh1b: Check out Auto-brewery syndrome
<SiFuh> You can have sugar from plants but refined is addictive and toxic
<kh1b> yeah i know
<SiFuh> I make illegal vodka and moonshine
<SiFuh> I usually add glycerin to my vodka
<SiFuh> It's a vegetable sugar
<kh1b> clean buisness
<SiFuh> Also used in explosive but... I have no need to blow up my brothers
<kh1b> lol
<SiFuh> Funny you say that. The heads of the vodka I use for cleaning. HAHAHA
<SiFuh> Today I get a call. "My mother wants you vodka. Can you open tonight?"
<kh1b> ted kaczynski ?
<SiFuh> Nah
<kh1b> SiFuh: u do uberVodka
<SiFuh> I ain't no Unabomber but I am certainly a Popcorn Sutton
<SiFuh> Got a call several days ago. Can you provide 100 litres of vodka for Indian New Years?
<kh1b> another anachrco-primitivist ?
<SiFuh> He wasn't an anarchist
<SiFuh> He was anti-tech
<kh1b> Neo-Luddism
<kh1b> yeah
<SiFuh> I actually wrote a paper on him in school
<kh1b> are you ?
<SiFuh> No, I don't believe in government. I think they are scum sucking leeches that have zero value to any society.
<kh1b> talking of Neo-Luddism
<kh1b> or anti-tech
<SiFuh> Oh a Luddite
<SiFuh> I am using a computer right now
<kh1b> shit i am also doing that
<SiFuh> I am anti tech in a way
<kh1b> and started second degree in net/sys admin
<kh1b> but also anti-tech in many ways
<SiFuh> So I take a phone when I travel alone or interstate or international
<SiFuh> But It gets a flat battery most of the time.
<SiFuh> I hate tech because of one reason
<SiFuh> To create it and use it something must be taken away
<SiFuh> I am mostly running on analog tech
<SiFuh> I rarely carry digital shit
<kh1b> i like using simple government independent tech
<SiFuh> I don't even wear a watch mostly. It is for fashion
<kh1b> something i can maintain on my own would be ideal
<SiFuh> I get asked the time often in the jungle and I tell them within 30 minutes
<SiFuh> I am trained to read the sun. But Malaysia is different
<kh1b> you have no sun there
<kh1b> or 2 ?
<SiFuh> If it is 12:00 by the sun. There is an hour difference
<SiFuh> Wrong timesone
<SiFuh> Timezone
<kh1b> more math to do
<SiFuh> Nah
<SiFuh> Here is +8 should be +7
<SiFuh> Just add 1 hour
<SiFuh> Sun at 12 it means 13:00
<kh1b> ah ok
<SiFuh> Also can point to north south east or west
<SiFuh> But that is jungle life
<SiFuh> They thought I was some white boy that wants to be cool
<SiFuh> But then they realised that I ain't.
<SiFuh> I did make mistake once
<SiFuh> I pointed east and it was actually west
<SiFuh> Something fucked up in my head
<kh1b> you belong to the jungle
<SiFuh> I was pretty pissed off when I realised I was wrong
<SiFuh> Actually, I never knew the real jungle
<SiFuh> I grew up in rainforests
<kh1b> how is the weather out there malaysia
<SiFuh> I think Thailand and Malaysia was my first real Jungle experience
<SiFuh> Next few months... rain, floods, landslides
<SiFuh> 25 we are to go camping (Not off-road) they said if it rains 3 days non-stop they cancel. I said SiFuh does not cancel....
<SiFuh> They call me Rambo here
<kh1b> you are the man for the job
<SiFuh> Best part is I go with the health department for camping and they forced the vaccine covid shit on everyone and I didn't take their shit
<SiFuh> In one video the Health department filmed me and I said "I am here for emergency purposes. I am here to teach and make sure the health department follows safety protocols"
<SiFuh> It was kind of funny
<SiFuh> I just want to camp and enjoy my fire.
<SiFuh> Nature is perfect. You can't make it better. God made it perfect
<kh1b> you should have taken the vax to add '5x boosted' to your bio
<kh1b> next to your pronouns
<SiFuh> I don't have pronouns or injections. I ain't stupid
<kh1b> and end it with the ukrain flag
<SiFuh> When we go camping, I sleep on the ground near the fire
<SiFuh> Ukraine is a shit hole
<kh1b> jk
<kh1b> was talking about the wokes
<SiFuh> I had a woman who loved me and when I found out she was Ukrainian. I cared zero about how sexy she was or her breast size
<SiFuh> I told her we can never be
<kh1b> she that sound racist af
<kh1b> Ukrainian = go fuck off ?
<SiFuh> I don't like Urkainans
<SiFuh> I have never liked them
<SiFuh> As much as I don't like Indonesians
<kh1b> i cant tell, never met a Ukrainian, just heard they are fucking hot
<SiFuh> They an me can never coincide
<kh1b> indians ?
<SiFuh> If she was Russian, I'd be with her now :-P
<SiFuh> I love Indians
<kh1b> chinese ?
<kh1b> arabs ?
<SiFuh> I am married to one
<SiFuh> Arabs fine
<SiFuh> Iranian fine
<kh1b> hebrew people?
<SiFuh> I just don't like Indonesians and Ukrainias
<SiFuh> Hebrews? None left
<kh1b> i meant israel
<SiFuh> And I don't like touchy touchy people
<SiFuh> My wife is touchy. She likes to smell me and touch me.
<kh1b> that's another story
<SiFuh> Sorry. I am a porcupine and I will shoot quils at you
<SiFuh> Hahaha
<SiFuh> I don't like contact
<kh1b> with humans
<SiFuh> This is why I love the Thai wai
<SiFuh> Anything or anyone.
<SiFuh> Don't fucking touch me. I hate it.
<SiFuh> kh1b: I let my wife get some freebees though because she is my wife
<kh1b> that's how i grow up
<kh1b> no one talk about his emotions
<SiFuh> But she knows I hate it. I need to give her some leniency
<kh1b> its like they dont exist
<SiFuh> My life was pretty hard
<SiFuh> I was beaten daily and locked into a small room every day
<SiFuh> So they made it and I accept it
<SiFuh> I was punished for shit I never did
<kh1b> as a child ?
<SiFuh> Brother and two sisters would gang up against me and blame me. 3 against one.
<SiFuh> Not just a child
<SiFuh> It lasted from 1988 until 1999
<kh1b> that's rough
<SiFuh> When I came back from Asia as an adult they tried it on me again and my father was cursing at me and I was about to break his face with my broken arm.
<SiFuh> Mum was screaming
<SiFuh> Didn't talk to him for 3 months
<SiFuh> He cried in my arms the day I went back to Asia
<kh1b> did he regret ?
<SiFuh> I cried too but held the tears back
<SiFuh> Of course
<kh1b> is it now all good with him ?
<SiFuh> My father is Vietnam war US navy
<SiFuh> Of course.
<kh1b> happy to hear that
<SiFuh> I ain't a soyboy because of them
<kh1b> a bit extrem roughing
<SiFuh> I am as hard and tough as any man can be because they moulded me
<kh1b> but turned you into what you are
<SiFuh> Yes and unfortunately I am the same to my wife