<remiliascarlet>
zorz: "actually where is lavaball ?" Probably cooking somewhere at the core of the Earth.
<remiliascarlet>
Also, as for what lavaball did, basically being a nucanse for months and months, barely contributing anything of value to any conversation, insulting people who disagree with his opinions, cringe behavior overal.
<remiliascarlet>
Oh, and the constant flipflopping, lying, and creeping out on me specifically.
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<SiFuh>
Damn remiliascarlet You said that before ppetrov^ arrived. :-)
<ppetrov^>
remiliascarlet, banned lavaball from #crux-social?
<remiliascarlet>
Yes.
<ppetrov^>
heh
<ppetrov^>
i thought you two agree on many things
<remiliascarlet>
Only on video games, and even that it was just a tiny bit.
<remiliascarlet>
s/that/than
<remiliascarlet>
Goddamn...
<remiliascarlet>
s/that/then
<ppetrov^>
and vaccines :P
<remiliascarlet>
Yes, but so does SiFuh.
<remiliascarlet>
And both SiFuh and I have long left that topic like everyone else (both pro-vax and anti-vax alike), and only lavaball kept on talking about it like if the scamdemic was still going on.
<ppetrov^>
fairt enough
<ppetrov^>
*fair
<ppetrov^>
fuck not even the 1st coffee
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: One of the wife's colleagues is under 14 day quarantine because tested positive to Covid.
<remiliascarlet>
Make them shove that test up whoever gave them it up their ass.
<SiFuh>
Dr Fan Chie Chung
<remiliascarlet>
So a Chink.
<remiliascarlet>
No wonder he or she still cares about covid.
<remiliascarlet>
Also, looks like Haiku beta 5 came out, and finally added dark mode.
<remiliascarlet>
Pretty important to remind Microsoft hating Linux users to who owns the very code repository website they love.
<ppetrov^>
heh
<ppetrov^>
i never hated Microsoft. Windows 95 is still my favourite OS
<ppetrov^>
it's been all downhill since then
<remiliascarlet>
To me Windows is just painfully confusing.
<SiFuh>
Kolibrios is extremely fast. It takes like a second to boot.
<ppetrov^>
at the moment, yes. Back in the 90s I had fun with it. ALso, there was a tool, TweakUI or sth that let you (surprise, surprise) tweak additional stuff
<ppetrov^>
SiFuh, how's hardware support?
<SiFuh>
I don't know
<remiliascarlet>
Never tried KolibriOS before, but looks pretty interesting. I did try Haiku multiple times before, its boot times and even install times are incredible.
<remiliascarlet>
ppetrov^: TempleOS almost gave me a seizure.
<remiliascarlet>
I work in dark areas, so the bright screen immediately makes me blind.
<SiFuh>
When I had a white background and white font, I thought I went blind too ;-)
<remiliascarlet>
What is weird is that on the PowerBook G4, the white background for the OpenFirmware screen somehow looks nice.
<remiliascarlet>
Almost like a slightly darkened white.
<SiFuh>
Three people have been killed and 15 wounded in a knife attack at a supermarket in Shanghai, police said on Tuesday. The incident happened just before China’s week-long National Day holiday.
<SiFuh>
According to preliminary findings, Lin flew into a rage due to “personal financial reasons.”
<remiliascarlet>
A week-long National Day?
<remiliascarlet>
Kind of like saying "a month-long faggot day".
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<remiliascarlet>
Guess time flows differently in China.
<SiFuh>
Nah, RT writers make lots of mistakes
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<SiFuh>
Cool, was faster to use a spray gun to paint the wall than using brushes and rollers
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: In #monero-social there's a Russian in favor for wokeness and LGBT, which is a mental illness.
<SiFuh>
Does he even live in Russia?
<remiliascarlet>
She lives in Russia, yes.
<remiliascarlet>
She seems to be very anti-Kremlin too.
<SiFuh>
Is she even Russian?
<remiliascarlet>
Yes.
<SiFuh>
Then she is a disease
<remiliascarlet>
Exactly what I was thinking too.
<remiliascarlet>
We need to put all the woke SJW's on a train right into gas chambers. Gas them all with honor and respect.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: No, I think they should all be sent to Bouvet Island and told that if you survive the winter, then welcome back.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Here is a thought. Let's say Trump got in instead of Biden. Would the American people that have woken up now, have woken up then?
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: This dog.... I was standing outside 'silently' drinking a beer while she was sleeping. Suddenly she farts! It startles he and she wakes up looking around barking left and right.
<SiFuh>
he/her
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<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I found a way to get the wires through the ceiling without a monkey.
<ppetrov^>
farkuhar, thanks to you I finally got rid of fucking *.la files once and for all
<ppetrov^>
hope
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: Not involving the power spray, I hope? You seem to have found countless new uses for that device.
<SiFuh>
I was spray painting the house walls in the hallway and saw the roller rod and it is extendable. I can make a noose and loop it around the plugs as theya re poked through the ceiling holes.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: The water power spray? Kind of yes but No, but I use the batteries from it for the spray gun.
<SiFuh>
It's a spray gone that is used for watering plants where a hose can't reach, but also can be used for paint. So I watered down the house paint and sprayed the wall.
<farkuhar>
ppetrov^: I also recall from my years with Win9x, sometimes changing the default graphical shell to get a more customizable GUI. There was almost as much diversity in modding Win9x, as the BSD/Linux world enjoys with its various window managers.
<remiliascarlet>
farkuhar: Back in the 90s, we actually owned the software we bought and paid for. Today, you subscribe and pay for software you can't own.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: You didn't ever own Windows
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I asked Zuan. "Why is your windows set up like Linux and your Linux like windows?"
<remiliascarlet>
I never used Windows until middle school.
<SiFuh>
No you never used windows. Windows uses you.
<remiliascarlet>
And I meant own as in you pay for it once or get it for free, and you can do with it whatever you want.
<SiFuh>
No you can't
<remiliascarlet>
Apple is the ultimate anti-ownership company, going as far as requiring you to wipe the screen with their own proprietary cloth, because any other cloth will destroy the screen.
<SiFuh>
Back I got into trouble from Microsoft when I was showing a solution that would stop virus' from do anything to your computer. (Before worms and shit). Because I modified one of their files
<SiFuh>
Back in the day*
<remiliascarlet>
Understandable, the (anti-)virus industry means lots of profits.
<SiFuh>
You are not allowed to modify Windows at all. It is not yours and if you do so, you have broken the EULA and can be fined
<remiliascarlet>
And by showing how you can protect yourself for real is going to hurt Billy Gaytes's pockets.
<remiliascarlet>
This is why there will never be a mainstream cure against cancer, even though the actual cure exists, and has been around since the beginning of time, and it's very easy too.
<remiliascarlet>
And doesn't require anything from the medical industry even.
<SiFuh>
Heh, cancer is not a disease
<remiliascarlet>
Same is true with malware. As soon as everyone knows how to protect themselves against malware without an anti-virus, the entire anti-virus industry will collapse.
<SiFuh>
Eat baked beans with onions and eggs you will fart. Farting is not a disease. There is no cure.
<SiFuh>
Want to get rid of cancer? Stop eating shit food, remove sugar from your diet. Clean your liver, kidneys and your immune system will start functioning again.
<remiliascarlet>
To not have cancer, all you need to do is don't consume sugar. To not have malware, all you need to do is don't click on questionable links.
<remiliascarlet>
And don't run questionable binaries.
<remiliascarlet>
Or scripts.
<SiFuh>
Everyone gets cancer every day. Your immune system removes it.
<SiFuh>
People with diagnosed cancer have a surpressed immune system or a non-existant one
<farkuhar>
This channel survived only one day without the creepy muppet, and then it had to fill the void with a new epithet: alien cow child. Let's hope Bovine Boy doesn't meet the same fate as the previous luser to earn a pet name.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: EBE Bovine Boy is to entertaining
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh is the founder of this channel, so I don't think he can get banned.
<remiliascarlet>
At least, channel founders can unban themselves.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: zorz is the Extraterrestrial Cow Child aka. EBE Bovine Boy.
<remiliascarlet>
Wouldn't he qualify for as an olive oil boy?
<SiFuh>
And even though I won't police the operators actions. I will be a bit annoyed if zorz gets banned
<remiliascarlet>
Don't worry about that.
<farkuhar>
EBE Bovine Boy is entertaining, but SiFuh muted his incoming private messages. That's almost the same treatment that the creepy muppet got, before being banned.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: HAHAHA he does wear tight jeans that Olive Oil could barely fit.
<remiliascarlet>
Even though zorz is childish and at times idiotic, at least he's nice and cool.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I did that because he was flooding me and jumping from channel to PM all the time and I don't like switching backwards and forwards between channels and messages
<remiliascarlet>
Actually, zorz is the type of guy you can poke fun at to the extend it gets abusive, and he's perfectly fine with that. Lavaball is the type of guy that only the slightest disagreement gets him to insult you and cause drama throughout the channel.
<remiliascarlet>
That's the main difference between the 2.
<SiFuh>
Hunting minors was just sickening
<SiFuh>
In Thailand we have word for people like zorz. Dting dtong
<SiFuh>
But the translation never seems to match it correctly. I saw in GTO series it was translated as ditsy.
<SiFuh>
ติงตอง
<SiFuh>
Ditsy/ditzy = Eccentric or scatterbrained.
<SiFuh>
That is closer to what the dictionary translates it as. They translate it as crazy; mad; insane; wacky.
<SiFuh>
I'd say scatterbrained is the closest meaning
<farkuhar>
perfect illustration of the difference between #crux and #crux-social: uwumeowmeownyaa's latest question, if posted in this channel, would earn a barrage of sarcastic replies, e.g. "is there a similar hack that allows your head to hold more information?"
<ppetrov^>
so, when a person gets banned they simply cannot enter the channel or they can no longer write?
<ppetrov^>
farkuhar, should we invite him?
<farkuhar>
as for brian|lfs, his question was meant more seriously, but in this channel it would also receive a witty reply, denouncing the state of web technologies in general (and webkitgtk in particular).
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: banned mean banned entry.
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: If remiliascarlet did +q he good join but not able to speak.
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: However, she only IP banned lavaball so he can probably still enter if his IP changes
<SiFuh>
I won't ban anyone. But I won't police the other channel operators either.
<SiFuh>
And to be honest, his stalking, creepy behavior to female members, is just sleazy so I am happy to stand by remiliascarlet's choice.
<remiliascarlet>
As I already explained, doing a +q on lavaball is no different from him just reading the logs.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: Ahh that's what you menat
<SiFuh>
meant*
<SiFuh>
I thought you meant it stops him from reading the logs which I thought was strange, but I was pretty high on paint fumes. That stuff still goes through the face masks.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Question for you. Mr K sent a photo of his baby in pyjamas in a chair in a white room that looks like a hospital. End of October we are going to go camping in Lata Lembik. But after he sent that photo he said "Standby for Lata Lembik"
<SiFuh>
How would you read that? The photo and the message that was with it? Like what would you think that means?
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I was thinking about using the water spray jet today. But it is too uselful to experiment with.
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: yt-dlp cWy4OEOBhjg
<remiliascarlet>
Video is called "Low vs High Testosterone Men".
<SiFuh>
Fatties!
<farkuhar>
ppetrov^: no need to invite uwumeowmeownyaa in here, SiFuh already brought the legendary #crux-social witticism over to the forum where uwumeowmeownyaa is.
<remiliascarlet>
Thought it was supposed to be a typo.
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: In case you're wondering, his channel is called "Psl God Mindset". He seems to truly know what's attractive to women.
<farkuhar>
remiliascarlet: yes, it was a typo. The right word in that context is just "wit".
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<farkuhar>
Similar to my mix-up last week when I used "censoring" instead of "muting". Selecting the right word becomes more difficult as we age, because the neural pathways activate an entire cluster of words, not just the appropriate one. SiFuh's mix-up of makibishi and metsubushi is another example.
<farkuhar>
lavaball's channel name "Psl God Mindset" is supposed to attract women (minors in particular)? What about the $LOGNAME that shows up in his join/leave messages (Melissa if I recall correctly)? Is that gender confusion also supposed to be attractive to women?
<ppetrov^>
farkuhar, 'melissa'?
<ppetrov^>
maybe the guy likes the name
<SiFuh>
I thought it was the name of a girl that got away
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: What is a Psl God Mindset?
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Oh, I couldn't resist. I had to say it in #crux.
<SiFuh>
zorz_: I think SiFuh had gone out to smoke a cigar with the dog and drink a Guinness beer and contemplate on the future
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: I am going to KL to check out the 4x4 shop in Shah Alam this weekend. See you there?
<SiFuh>
HAHAHA
<zorz_>
hahaa
<SiFuh>
I have some awesome restaurants (No beer unfortunately) that you can check out.
<zorz_>
SiFuh: need help
<SiFuh>
I don't work in psychiatric wars zorz_
<SiFuh>
Hahahahaha
<zorz_>
i mount /user in another partition and i get this [ 1.290905] udevd[272]: failed to execute '/usr/sbin/nfsrahead' '/usr/sbin/nfsrahead 7:3': No such file or directory
<SiFuh>
wars/wards*
<zorz_>
any idea how to overcome this ?
<SiFuh>
You are manually mounting or using a GUI and is it automount?
<SiFuh>
Didn't farkuhar setup an NFS server recently?
<zorz_>
i dont do nfs
<zorz_>
crux is running.
<zorz_>
but i dont like this
<SiFuh>
It's not an error, it is more like a probe
<zorz_>
and is wrong... to try find the command '/usr/sbin/nfsrahead without /usr being mounted
<zorz_>
yes its a probe
<SiFuh>
Do you have nfs-utils installed?
<zorz_>
ahhhh let me check
<zorz_>
no
<zorz_>
let me try
<SiFuh>
Okay
<zorz_>
sorry was installed
<zorz_>
i typed wrong
<SiFuh>
Exists? /usr/sbin/nfsrahead
<zorz_>
yes
<zorz_>
root@void:~# which nfsrahead
<zorz_>
/usr/sbin/nfsrahead
<SiFuh>
Can you recompile the udev port?
<zorz_>
ofcourse
<SiFuh>
Apart from that, I have nothing. OpenBSD here
<zorz_>
eudev
<SiFuh>
Try to talk to wife into camping before we go camping. So we can take the dog. Then the next trip is us with the Muslims.
<zorz_>
Iran attacked finally
<SiFuh>
Actually, I'd like to go camping every weekend :-P
<zorz_>
americans find the reason to attack brics
<SiFuh>
This weekend I am going to KL though
<SiFuh>
I saw the news
<SiFuh>
But Iran might not have. We have to wait for more news.
<SiFuh>
They may have done a dummy attack like they did to the US under Trump
<SiFuh>
Iran culture. You punch, they punch back. But the loop hole is. They tell you they will attack and where to show off their power and you can move your soldiers away. It's basically a kind of mind game.
<SiFuh>
zorz_: Here is a little secret. Before US attacked and invaded Iraq, they sat down at the table with Sadam Hussein and told them this is what we will do. And it was agreed.
<SiFuh>
My favorite was before he was hung. His wife came to visit him and said "That's not my husband. I don't know this man"
<SiFuh>
He's probably living a good life on an island in the Carribeans or something.
<SiFuh>
zorz_: Admiring my paint job in the house when I used an air spray gun to paint the walls. It looks so fscking good.
<zorz_>
SiFuh: the perfectionist
<SiFuh>
Yeah, it is well known amongst my friends
<zorz_>
you know this problem was solved if /nfsrahead is installed in /sbin
<SiFuh>
If I don't like it. I will start again. So the day before it didn't look nice so I sanded the wall and re-sprayed. Wife said it was fine. I said it is not. And now it is amazing to look at.
<SiFuh>
zorz_: So you solved it?
<SiFuh>
nvme0n1p3 <-- Not mounted before eudev starts its stuff?
<SiFuh>
So some retard who wrote the port uses / and not /usr as a mountable disk?
<zorz_>
this is crux bug
<zorz_>
dont know man
<SiFuh>
Sounds like it. You can always modify the port and then request in #crux that the #crux maintainer of that port move it to /sbin
<zorz_>
if i change the port and install it to sbin... problem solved otherwise i have to mount /usr in nvme0n1p3 before udev
<zorz_>
before start_udev
<SiFuh>
I am still against / containing everything on one mounted partion. I only do that when I am lazy.
<SiFuh>
zorz_: I don't think this is a bug. I think this is bad maintence of a port.
<zorz_>
SiFuh: as always you are correct
<zorz_>
i will change the port of nfs-utils
<zorz_>
and actually should be in /sbin
<zorz_>
not in /usr/sbin
<SiFuh>
Jue is the one you need to inform
<SiFuh>
q
<zorz_>
ok i will inform him, after i chenge the port end works
<zorz_>
lets play
<SiFuh>
zorz_: You say "jue: nfs-utils installs nfsrahead in /usr/sbin but udev tries to access it before /usr is mounted on a multi mount system. To solve this would be to install to /sbin."
<zorz_>
SiFuh: i change this to nfs-utils --libexecdir=/sbin \
<zorz_>
it was --libexecdir=/sbin \
<zorz_>
it was --libexecdir=/usr/sbin \
<zorz_>
it installs ok
<zorz_>
let me reboot
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<zorz_>
no it calls specifically '/usr/sbin/nfsrahead' i will find it with ag where it is
<zorz_>
better idea... i will uninstall the nfs-utils,,, hahaha no nfs here in Greece :)
<zorz_>
lol
<zorz_>
lets see
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<zorz_>
SiFuh_: yes that it
<zorz_>
i unistalled nfs-utils. but if i had nfs drives, and seperate user partition then.... crux no good.
<zorz_>
so the verdict is, that crux mainteners dont use seperate partition for /usr
<zorz_>
heh
<zorz_>
now we need too add sgx
<SiFuh>
No, they use systems that they want and don't give a flying fuck about anyone else
<zorz_>
i think but this is gross... if someone wants to have separate partitions
<zorz_>
which is the proper way of doing thing
<zorz_>
anyway,,, i think they dont use crux... they just have it in a vmware
<SiFuh>
And anyone with an opinion that says otherwise is full of shit
<zorz_>
this sgx thing is for intel cpu
<zorz_>
?
<SiFuh>
No idea
<SiFuh>
But LGTV will become a group soon at this rate
<SiFuh>
zorz_: Did you read the logs?
<SiFuh>
farkuhar was asking about if you will be banned next
<SiFuh>
'paraphrasing '
<SiFuh>
And remiliascarlet and I basically 'paraphrasing' said no
<zorz_>
hahahaha
<zorz_>
bitch farkuhar
<SiFuh>
Heh
<SiFuh>
You know he has the power to ban you right?
<SiFuh>
HAHAHA
<zorz_>
SiFuh: now farkuhar will be busy trying to solve the issue with start_udev
<zorz_>
hahahha
<SiFuh>
I hope so
<SiFuh>
It will keep him distracted from banning you :-P
<zorz_>
you hope to ban me ?
<SiFuh>
Fuck no
<SiFuh>
I didn't even want to ban lavaball.
<zorz_>
man, i am the joy of #crux-social....
<SiFuh>
The scatterbrained EBE Bovine Baby
<zorz_>
without me #crux-social is like a funeral :)
<SiFuh>
zorz_: remiliascarlet had her reasons, so such is life.
<SiFuh>
I doubt that
<SiFuh>
He was a twat anyway.
<SiFuh>
And now that she booted him out, my perl script for IRSSI is no longer needed :-(
<SiFuh>
So a couple of days of peace wasted for a couple of days writing the script :-P
<SiFuh>
Actually did you see the reason why? She replied to you when you were offline the reason.
<SiFuh>
nucanse. I think she meant nuisance but I still read it as nutcase ;-)
<zorz_>
thanks let me see
<zorz_>
ooooo
<zorz_>
i remember you had a meeting about contributing, before the ban
<SiFuh>
Yeah, I felt she kind of plagiarized some of my opinions
<SiFuh>
Not that she can, but if lavaball was here, he'd consider it plagiarizing. Clown he is.
<SiFuh>
But it is true. I read all the logs and he contributed zero. But she said "barely contributing anything". I wonder what he barely contributed.
<zorz_>
remi where are you
<zorz_>
remi lets go to sleep
<zorz_>
remi good morning
<zorz_>
hahahaha
<zorz_>
remi sweetheart dont ban me baby
<SiFuh>
zorz_: I kind of think it is my fault because I corrected him from calling her a 'he'
<SiFuh>
Then he was like "Huh? He is a she? shit...
<zorz_>
ofcourse... if you dont endorse to a fucked up person then he insults you
<SiFuh>
I figured out she was a she long ago. I even spoken privately with serpente saying. This person doesn't talk like a man. I am sure she is a woman.
<zorz_>
SiFuh: yesterday i found this in AUR https://0x0.st/XgYl.txt and i just did :%s/pgkdir/PKG/g :%s/srcdir/SRC/g | it installs| later i will tryit with hashcat if it works.... i am fucking lucky
<SiFuh>
Then a few weeks later, it was obvious then she came out of the closet and revealed herself. HAHAHA
<SiFuh>
She said she left clues, but those clues were not in the beginning.
<SiFuh>
I think the real first clue was when we were talking about women and she said she isn't that way inclined (Paraphrasing). That was like two or three weeks after I was sure she was female.
<zorz_>
she told me is a she a year ago
<SiFuh>
No, I told you
<SiFuh>
Because you kept using male pronouns
<zorz_>
i did on purpose
<zorz_>
heh
<SiFuh>
03:00:56 [SiFuh> So our Japanese channel girl shouldn't be too upset with me
<SiFuh>
03:02:33 [zorz> Japanese channel girl?
<SiFuh>
03:02:45 [SiFuh> zorz: You are so fucking slow
<SiFuh>
03:02:50 [zorz> hahahaha
<SiFuh>
I then private messaged you to inform you he is a she.
<zorz_>
yes
<zorz_>
look i did not give a shit for lavaball but he manage to pissed of ppetrov, remilia
<zorz_>
you no, he have an immune system
<SiFuh>
No?
<SiFuh>
Or know?
<zorz_>
you not got pissed you have immune system
<zorz_>
george english
<zorz_>
:)
<SiFuh>
What I didn't understand is why people thought he was making me mad
<SiFuh>
Apparently calling someone a cunt, or retard or fuckwit makes you angry.
<SiFuh>
But I grew up in Australia and those words have little meaning.
<SiFuh>
I use to hang out with truck drivers and taxi drivers the cunt word was spoken so fluently that it lost all meaning.
<SiFuh>
Example "Hey cunt, can you bring me that fucking twat tool. No, the long poof. Yeah, cunt. Fucking bring it here cunt. Fuck... This cunt will work. Thanks cunt"
<zorz_>
they dont understand
<SiFuh>
I understood
<SiFuh>
Actually there was one incident I was angry at one of them.
<zorz_>
SiFuh: did i told you that i solved the speed of xterm
<zorz_>
?
<SiFuh>
Ginger Ninja borrowed Glen's ratchet and it didn't fit. So he threw into the street. About 15 metres away. That pissed me off greatly. You don't throw tools.
<SiFuh>
Keyboards and broken hard drives. Fine but tools?
<zorz_>
xset r rate 250 30 &
<zorz_>
xterm*cursorBlink: true
<zorz_>
xterm*cursorBlinkInterval: 300
<zorz_>
thats it
<zorz_>
hehe
<SiFuh>
/usr/X11R6/bin/xset r rate 500 40
<zorz_>
fuck wayland now
<SiFuh>
That is in my .xsession file
<zorz_>
ooo i will increase
<SiFuh>
Let me channel spam my xset options
<SiFuh>
/usr/X11R6/bin/xset s off
<SiFuh>
/usr/X11R6/bin/xset -dpms
<SiFuh>
/usr/X11R6/bin/xset b 94 2100 32
<SiFuh>
/usr/X11R6/bin/xset c on
<SiFuh>
/usr/X11R6/bin/xset c 90
<SiFuh>
/usr/X11R6/bin/xset r rate 500 40
<SiFuh>
That's from like 2002 and never changed since
<zorz_>
:)
<SiFuh>
(:
<SiFuh>
zorz_: Do you know why France exists?
<zorz_>
?
<SiFuh>
James May "To make it easier for us to drive from the UK to Italy"
<zorz_>
hahahaha
<SiFuh>
I liked it too. :-P
<zorz_>
you know karma is a bitch, when syria immigrants to lebannon... lebanesse people used to treat them like animals... now...
<zorz_>
poor europe
<SiFuh>
zorz_: I've been watching all of The Grand Tour again. Since the latest episode was considered the last episode.
<SiFuh>
zorz_: My bootlegger had a run in of very bad luck.
<SiFuh>
He thinks someone has done black magic on him.
<SiFuh>
I said to him. "Karma is kicking your arse because YOU do not respect your customers and you rip them all off. You have done many bad things"
<SiFuh>
He said he hasn't but 2 weeks later he calls me and asks me to explain what I mean and admitted he did many bad things.
<SiFuh>
I told him if you do bad, Karma will kick your arse 3 fold! Not 3 times. 3 fold.
<zorz_>
i believe in Karma
<zorz_>
always do good... it comes back
<SiFuh>
I did bad. It was over 7 years before my life started to become good again.
<zorz_>
SiFuh: going to ave dinner.... mousaka
<SiFuh>
Yes well, I was a drug and gun dealer and worked with many Asian mafia. I quit everything Jully 11 2009. I suffered the karma since then until 2015
<zorz_>
later, otherwise tomorrow
<SiFuh>
Now I am anti drug, anti theft, anti crime, and everything must be honorable and moral.
<SiFuh>
Don't say moral around some of my friends or even lavaball.
<SiFuh>
They think morality is different amoungst all people but it is not.
<SiFuh>
zorz_: I quit because my mother said "If you keep going, you will end up in prison or dead. I want you to stop"
<SiFuh>
So I did
<SiFuh>
The backlash (More like whiplash) from karma was insane
<SiFuh>
And now, I am not happily married and living with a retarded dog with Chinese people all around eating soy. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
<SiFuh>
Actually I am quite contempt, so not happy because I lost a lot of my freedom that I once had. But as long as I can do what I want when I want and jungle/camping, I am satisifed. Nature and the wilderness makes me happy.
<SiFuh>
zorz_: When farkuhar came here I didn't actually want to go. But I said to myself "I live only once and I'd be annoyed he was so close (Even though so far) and I could have met him" I knew I'd hate it. But actually. I am glad I did because we got to hang out. I am sure not the way he wanted. Got to watch him stuff Durian like I have never seen. Got to walk Penang Island (Never done that before).. and
<SiFuh>
found a cool place to relax and drink with many people from many nations right near his hotel!
<SiFuh>
My hotel was shit. They were moving dead bodies and dragging pianos across the floor at 2am with prostitutes fighting to be paid after being beaten.. but that is another story.
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<SiFuh>
kh1b: Welcome back!
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<kh1b>
hello
<SiFuh>
Your host change was slow.
<SiFuh>
You arrived with an Afrinet IP
<kh1b>
yeah african dude
<SiFuh>
Quick question. What is happening with the French there? Kicked out already?
<kh1b>
naah they cant
<SiFuh>
That is the problem with Western governments. They put one foot in and like fleas they stay.
<kh1b>
yeah and lot of immigration in france and discussions around it
<SiFuh>
That's designed
<kh1b>
from the far right
<SiFuh>
I put it in very simple terms "Take a nation, introduce a flood of immigrants that don't coincide with your cultural ways and the nation will collapse"
<SiFuh>
It was designed back in the late 1800's and that is why the EU had to exist. Package all into one and flood it.
<kh1b>
yeah before its too late, and it take a big share of the economy
<kh1b>
plus france is fucking high on taxes
<SiFuh>
They are doing it in the US as well. And secretly being done in Australia and New Zealand.
<SiFuh>
Western countries legalized theft by introducing taxes. They say it pays for schools, hospitals, fire department, police. But actually it doesn't.
<SiFuh>
I mean, if the US can print money for example. Why pay tax?
<SiFuh>
Can you imagine I make vodka, and then charge you 30% tax as in 30% of the vodka I sell you, you must give back to me?
<kh1b>
"maintain public infrastructure"
<kh1b>
as they say
<SiFuh>
And yet... it doesn't maintain public infrastructure
<kh1b>
exactly
<SiFuh>
It just funds the eatarded people who do jack shit and make their wallets fatter
<SiFuh>
retarded*
<kh1b>
lot bs jobs as well
<SiFuh>
Want to make money? Become a politician.
<SiFuh>
I wonder how Biden is handling his Karma
<SiFuh>
kh1b: By the way, I don't think there is a far right except in conservative countries like Muslim countries.
<SiFuh>
In all the Islamic countries the governments were quite small (Malaysia is an exception) and the laws were quite laid back (Malaysia included in this) but the Syariah court effects the Muslims but that is religious.
<SiFuh>
I read the transportation laws here and I freaking love them. They are so basic. Unlike a leftist country like Australia where the laws are so pervasive that you need to look at the speed limit constantly and not the road in the case you get a fine. (Ticket)
<kh1b>
sometimes it seems like its a big show well made by both parties
<SiFuh>
Today I was in a 50 zone. The police were doing 60. I over took them. Said to the wife. Couldn't do that in Australia
<SiFuh>
kh1b: Yes, it is a show. Jones Plantation
<ukky>
zorz_: I might be wrong, but systemd does not support separate /usr partition. Thus, eudev should not support it either, as eudev is a part of systemd.
<SiFuh>
In China guns are highly illegal. But if I walked into a shop and someone saw my gun. Maybe a lot of gossip. But because I hadn't taken it out or even shot at someone. The police would never come
<SiFuh>
ukky: I saw that.
<SiFuh>
kh1b: Here the laws are British/Australian strict about weapons in your car. Anything is a weapon under the law. No bail. 15 years prison if you lose the court case. I carry many dangerous blades. Police always ask why I have it. I just say "Camping
<SiFuh>
Or Jungle
<SiFuh>
Or a tool
<ukky>
the fact that eudev is systemd project, is why I do not use it and had to switch to mdev in Crux.
<SiFuh>
ukky: Should it be pushed in #crux?
<SiFuh>
ukky: Some users think the path of beerman will lead to systemd in CRUX
<ukky>
SiFuh: no, we are all adults here
<SiFuh>
ukky: That answers nothing. Should it not be pushed?
<SiFuh>
ukky: If you found a better way, shouldn't you try to sell it?
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<ukky>
SiFuh: Crux is not good for what I need. I tried hard to make it work, but, unfortunately, I cannot accomplish my plans with Crux..
<SiFuh>
ukky: Same, hence OpenBSD
<SiFuh>
I want PAM, dumb_runtime_dir and sudo out of core. It's just stupid to have them in core
<SiFuh>
dumb_runtime_dir <-- Is the dumbest thing ever
<ukky>
SiFuh: I want every component user-configured
<SiFuh>
Why is that even in core? It has zero to do with core
<SiFuh>
And sudo and opendoas should be in opt because there was a time when sudo was never used. So why in core?
<ukky>
As you said long time ago, somebody needed it in their setup, thus it became core component
<ukky>
We mix *BSD and Linux ideas here
<SiFuh>
I don't know who introduced sudo into core
<SiFuh>
But I do know who introduced PAM into core and he is a friend of mine and I am not happy he had done that
<SiFuh>
He said there was a vote.
<SiFuh>
But that vote only including maintainers
<SiFuh>
I don't think votes should soley be up to maintainers
<SiFuh>
6 people (then) can make decisions on behalf of everyone?
<ukky>
I do not work on improving Crux anymore, but there should be somebody very strict on how things should be done in Crux
<SiFuh>
I bet if Per was still her he'd say no and tell them it is final.
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<SiFuh>
ukky: Yeah it was discussed here many months ago. It should follow Per's path and not beerman's path for example.
<ukky>
That path does not work with me, if I don't like something, I cut it out
<SiFuh>
Per had an idea and liked it and ran with it. These new guys just ignore what he worked for and they are flooding core with crap.
<SiFuh>
ukky: But you shouldn't have to
<SiFuh>
Per's CRUX was pure. Like really pure. No shit. If it was needed, it would not be included.
<SiFuh>
was/wasn't*
<ukky>
SiFuh: That's why Crux is not good for me. I am working on something based on NetBSD.
<SiFuh>
So for example. I can run CRUX fine without PAM. It is not needed. So therefore it can NEVER enter core.
<ppetrov^>
SiFuh, tell beerman this
<ppetrov^>
:P
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: It wasn't beerman that did that.
<SiFuh>
I used beerman as an example.
<ppetrov^>
I stand corrected
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: beerman is notrious for erasing user wanted ports and replacing them with his. So it stands to reason he is a perfect example.
<ukky>
Even eudev is not required, and it is always loaded in Crux
<SiFuh>
Yes
<SiFuh>
ukky: I let pkgutils and prt-get slide on this. Only because it is CRUX specific. But I still think it should be in OPT
<SiFuh>
I think core should be enough to boot your system and nothing more. Everything else is opt or contrib.
<SiFuh>
SYSLINUX for example is not in core but it is the new replacement for LILO. Hmmm.. Why then can't I add prt-get and pkgutils as a seperate choice during install?
<SiFuh>
It is not needed in core, but it is needed if you want to keep core up-to-date
<ukky>
Agree. Anything that a single user removes after install, should be optional, i.e. moved to opt, or contrib
<SiFuh>
Yes, this is the point we want to push but ignored or insulted
<SiFuh>
If I need to remove something from core, then why is it in core?
<SiFuh>
Per loved BSD. He wanted a system that follow the BSD mentallity. Won't work today though. But then it was fine. He was sick to the shit house about the crap Linux would have as default. It was a waste of time to have and waste of space.
<SiFuh>
Now CRUX is introducing shit to core that isn't needed by all uses to get a bootable system. If he returned, I bet he'd pissed off.
<ukky>
There are many things done wrong in Crux, and nobody fixes them. Just saying. I cannot fix them (tried though).
<SiFuh>
Took me 18 years to force my hand to fix their broken init system
<SiFuh>
So join my club ;-)
<ukky>
sorry, I love runit
<SiFuh>
I do too but I don't like as I mentioned before the force re-run of a failed daemon
<ukky>
It is easy to fix broken daemons in runit
<SiFuh>
I don't think Per would want to use a runnit though
<SiFuh>
If you know it is broken
<SiFuh>
But you can run a daemon and think all is fine but it repeatedly dies.
<ukky>
imho, runit is superior to systemV init
<SiFuh>
I will agree with you on that
<ukky>
It is easy to see if daemon restarted in runit
<SiFuh>
If you look
<SiFuh>
For me named was the issue.
<SiFuh>
It appeared to work but it didn't
<SiFuh>
I only found out by looking at logs.
<ukky>
For me, transmission-daemon was broken recently, but it was easy to fix it (curl was broken)
<SiFuh>
If something fails in OpenBSD you end up in Console 1 with blue background and white text whining about it
<SiFuh>
Would be a nice addition to runnit.
<ukky>
No, these things should be simple
<ukky>
Any addition complicates setup
<SiFuh>
If I go Alt ctrl F1 and see, I don't need to open a log
<SiFuh>
Errors are printed directly to Console 1
<ukky>
(forgot I didn't do Alt-Crtl-F1 for a month)
<SiFuh>
I get UHID attached and detached messages mostly
<ukky>
nothing on F1
<SiFuh>
If I mount a drive that fails. Alt Cntrl F1 will spam me
<ukky>
At work, I redirect HID connect/disconnect on F12 in runit
<SiFuh>
F11 in OpenBSD
<SiFuh>
F1 = 0
<SiFuh>
F12 = F11
<ppetrov^>
SiFuh, it's funny, once someone asked me for git-lfs and I said i was fine with anyone using my port. Then the guy chimes in sending a link to his own port for this, which was not on portdb
<SiFuh>
I use to do it with a line printer.
<ukky>
in runit on Linux, you have to redirect console to avoid that spam
<ppetrov^>
honestly, i don't care if someone uses my ports or not, it was kinda weird
<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: Was it zorz?
<ppetrov^>
no, someone else, and then beerman turns out to have a port as well, but not on portdb
<ukky>
ppetrov^: I was asking for git-lfs
<ppetrov^>
ah
<SiFuh>
ukky: I don't use Console 1 to be honest. I just use it to check why my system didn't lock up.
<ppetrov^>
ukky, you happy with his port? :P
<ukky>
I need git-lfs for work
<ppetrov^>
ukky, i also did need it for same reason
<SiFuh>
ukky: You can't insert or unplug anything here without the system locking up. Need passwprd access or you can't do shit.
<ppetrov^>
i believe beerman's port is better, it builds from source iirc
<ukky>
And I need subversion too, couldn't find it, so created mine
<SiFuh>
I have USB speakers and it requires a password to access it if you plug in the USB/Bluetooth dongle.
<ppetrov^>
that's the way
<SiFuh>
ukky: I stopped using subversion when it didn't compile against libressl
<ukky>
SiFuh: I have no choice, at work some repos are only in subversion
<SiFuh>
There is always a choice ;-)
<ukky>
kdesvn?
<SiFuh>
ukky: Apart from Windows CE in the taxi. I always used linux or BSD
<SiFuh>
Told them, fire me if you don't like
<ukky>
I am happy nobody cares I use Linux at work
<SiFuh>
Right, it is almost 5am. I got shit to do tomorrow.
<SiFuh>
ukky: I was too
<ukky>
ppetrov^: your git-lfs is binary. No, I used the one that is compiled from sources.
<ppetrov^>
i know
<ukky>
farkuhar: with regard to iproute2, I take my words back about structure fields not being initialized.
<ukky>
farkuhar: I created a test program, compiled it, disassembled to see exact assembly code used. gcc erases the whole structure on the stack, then sets individual members specified in the init list.