#commonlisp on 2025-02-12 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

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14:10 <dnhester26> can anyone please help explaining some code? The code is using a macrolet, I just don't understand why use a macro if a regular function will do. Here's the file: https://github.com/Zulu-Inuoe/jzon/blob/develop/src/jzon.lisp#L1128 it's line 1128 in case the link doesn't work properly

14:10 <ixelp> jzon/src/jzon.lisp at develop · Zulu-Inuoe/jzon · GitHub

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14:13 <Shinmera> in that case, no idea. in other cases it can be useful since you can use it as a chea inlining mechanism

14:14 <Shinmera> the macro would make sense to me if the class slots were expanded at compile time or something, but

14:14 <dnhester26> what's "chea" cheap?

14:14 <Shinmera> yes

14:15 <dnhester26> thanks

14:15 <dnhester26> what's the benefit of expanding the class slots at compile time? avoiding the extra function call during runtime for speed?

14:15 <Shinmera> yes

14:15 <Shinmera> For instance: (macrolet ((frob () ..)) (etypecase seq (list (frob)) (vector (frob)))

14:16 <dnhester26> I had made this change in a previous PR https://github.com/Zulu-Inuoe/jzon/commit/c7427fbe8046541be1b334088a92138c2a19689a but the whole PR wasn't accepted. I'm curious if he would accept just this part

14:16 <ixelp> Unnecessary use of macro. Changing macro usage to generic function. · Zulu-Inuoe/jzon@c7427fb · GitHub

14:17 <dnhester26> Ok, let me see if I understood your example: write inline code depending on the type of the function, and basically this assumes that wherever this macrolet is used, the given `seq` variable is not going to change its type. Is that correct?

14:17 <Shinmera> yeah

14:17 <dnhester26> thanks

14:18 <Shinmera> knowing for the entire body what sequence type it is lets the compiler generate far better code

14:18 <Shinmera> otherwise each access will be generic, since no compiler at the moment is smart enough to do this kind of type unroll on its own.

14:19 <dnhester26> interesting, I take it you use this often in your games to produce more optimized code

14:19 <dnhester26> thanks for the insight into compilers as well

14:19 <Shinmera> more in libraries, but sure.

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