<jackdaniel>
this is a very vague description; .LISPWORKS file in what library? what indicates that it is the issue with ql distribution?
<jackdaniel>
or did I read only part of the message for some reason?
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<phoe>
this is three messages from a longer email thread
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<phoe>
I picked the ones where he started suspecting QL after getting some various LW-related issues that he couldn't explain at all
<phoe>
let me grab the complete thread...
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<jackdaniel>
I see; thanks for providing the context
<varjag>
it all sounds very improbable
<jackdaniel>
there are plenty of people whose wet dream is to crack someone else's computer (and some are even paid for that), so not that improbable, but the paste above is not convincing; I'll gladly read the thread
<varjag>
no i get it, just the jump to messing up lispworks ide sounds odd
* jackdaniel
being sceptical is even more so, I'll lie quietly and watch
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<phoe>
so am I, but let's check this
<varjag>
"the QL folks" huh
<varjag>
it's a whole company now
<jackdaniel>
if we are ranting, then I'd also point out that ql is not a supplier (as in supply chain) but a volunteer effort ,) but I've promised to lie quietly
<jackdaniel>
so
<varjag>
yeah think i'll shut up and see, even if though my bet would be on local-time being entirely fine
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<dlowe>
I just downloaded the latest local-time and it's identical to my version. I do notice however that quicklisp is using HTTP which is vulnerable to MitM attacks
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<Josh_2>
Hi hi :wave:
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<Bubblegumdrop>
hello Josh_2
<Josh_2>
:wave:
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<aeth>
I think there may be the temptation to force IEEE float in a well-specified version of the Common Lisp standard. This may make sense for single-float or even double-float, but it wouldn't make sense for long-float.
<aeth>
Pretty much every distinct (not 64-bit) long-float (80-bit, arbitrary precision, emulated 128-bit, etc.) won't be IEEE unless you're on a platform with hardware quad floats
<aeth>
although I think IEEE may have retroactively standardized Intel's 80-bit
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<paulapatience>
aeth: I believe yitzi added 128-bit floats to Clasp.
<bike>
code that assumes pi is a double would be incorrect even if you have 73 bit long float
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<younder>
Great to know next time I need to point a gun to it a dime in a nearby galaxy :)
<younder>
hit
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<aeth>
paulapatience: which 128-bit floats do matter... e.g. double doubles do seem to be the most (?) efficient way (but not IEEE) as opposed to e.g. pure software
<aeth>
so I wonder how it's done
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<younder>
As you might now a exceptionally efficient way of computing PI's digit has rendered it useless in cryptography.
<dlowe>
compression method that's just an index to a digit in pi and length. [warning: may not actually compress]
<aeth>
dlowe: now that's quite a space-speed tradeoff!
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<dlowe>
there's no guarantee that the index won't be larger than the actual data, though
<aeth>
It doesn't violate pigeonhole because it's infinite, and, yes, I suppose because the index can be larger than the actual data.
<aeth>
Otherwise it'd still violate the pigeonhole
<aeth>
There's no way to beat the pigeonhole principle
<aeth>
10 pigeons, 9 holes, you lose.
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<younder>
We know basic proof constructs here I think. Well at least I do :)
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<aeth>
public logs + lurkers, best to explain why something is the way it is
<aeth>
not explaining why in a support channel is going to make someone frustrated, even if it's kinda off-topic
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<jackdaniel>
ecl has pi as long double since like forever
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<jackdaniel>
afair only quicassumed pi tobe double , fixed long ago
<jackdaniel>
afair only quicassumed pi tobe double , fixed long agolong float *