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<mountainman1312>
I've never used Roswell before. It downloaded its own copy of SBCL. Is it recommended to remove the system package for SBCL and use this one? Should I add something like "$HOME/.roswell/impls" to PATH? Or am I misunderstanding something and should leave it alone?
<beach>
I never understood what problem is solved by Roswell.
<mountainman1312>
I'm just trying to make some executables for Windows. Kind of entering new territory on several things with this project, never done GUI before, never developed for Windows before. Probably making some poor decisions along the way haha
<jackdaniel>
roswell downloads prebuilt common lisp implementation binaries; this is rather buggy given that it runs on an arbitrary system; so the problem roswell addresses are these bugs introduced by running binary built on possibly incompatible system :)
<jackdaniel>
the easiest way to solve a problem is to make one beforehand
<beach>
I see. Thanks!
<mountainman1312>
So... just `pkg remove roswell` then?
<beach>
mountainman1312: I have no advice to give, given that I don't know what problem you were trying to solve by downloading Roswell, nor do I know whether Roswell is supposed to solve that problem.
<beach>
mountainman1312: If you are using SBCL, it there a reason why (SAVE-LISP-AND-DIE :EXECUTABLE T) is not working for you?
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<mountainman1312>
Like I said this is my first time doing anything on Windows. Did some internet searches and got the idea that Roswell was just the default way to compile a windows executable to be honest. I've yet to even start trying to porting it to windows, was just checking out roswell initially just now.
<beach>
I see.
<mountainman1312>
And I'm not developing "on" windows, just for it
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<beach>
I don't think you can create an executable for Windows if you are working on a different system. So you may need to do a few manipulations on Windows.
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<aeth>
you may be able to use wine
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<aeth>
I have SBCL 2.2.8 from 2 years ago (2022-08-30) in sbcl.exe form. So that's the last time I tried it. It runs. The REPL is even worse than the regular non-rlwrapped SBCL in-terminal REPL. Depending on what you're doing, you may be able to build an executable out of the SBCL executable from https://www.sbcl.org/platform-table.html
<ixelp>
Download - Steel Bank Common Lisp
<aeth>
You would have to _test_ it on Windows, though
<aeth>
I don't think Roswell comes in handy here? The Windows binaries (probably) exist for implementations with Windows support so all I think they're doing is making it easy to grab them all in one place? But if you only select one implementation...
<mountainman1312>
I'll probably just have to setup a Windows machine in here. Probably need to anyways for testing like you said.
<aeth>
Well, if you only use it for testing and not for anything else, it should be much easier to work with.
<mountainman1312>
I promise I won't use it for anything else :)
<aeth>
e.g. no need to try to get third-class-citizen GNU Emacs running
<aeth>
if you're just testing something you built in wine
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<Bubblegumdrop>
sbcl.exe built for windows runs perfectly well under wine and your lisp software will work as expected. Throw in a few Qt libs for Win32 and you're good to go.
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