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<alcor>
When using Sly's C-M-i autocomplete (aka *sly-completions*) in Emacs, clicking with the mouse on any completion always picks the first completion in the list :(
<alcor>
I'm not discounting the possibly of a misconfigured Emacs (I do have a near-vanilla Emacs, but there are some customizations), but would be cool if anyone can confirm/deny this possible issue.
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<alcor>
There seem to be other issues with Sly's completions, too. Hmm, this is a bit rough.
* alcor
temporarily accepts defeat and switches back to SLIME
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<supercode>
hello! I've got a Lisp reader-evaluator question? If all READ does is return a list representing the input source code, how during EVAL, tooling like SLIME etc. know where in the source code an error occurred when an error occurs?
<supercode>
I mean in other non-Lispy languages, the tokenizer emits tokens where each token has metadata like token-type, source line number, source column number, etc.
<supercode>
but READ of Lisp returns an ordinary list. it does not have any source line, source column information that can be used for error reporting
<yitzi>
Source info is collected outside of vanilla READ.
<supercode>
yitzi: when EVAL finds an error how does it find out the source location for the expression that errored out?
<supercode>
my confusion is that EVAL receives only a list.
<ixelp>
GitHub - s-expressionists/Eclector: A portable Common Lisp reader that is highly customizable, can recover from errors a [...]
<yitzi>
The cons cells passed to EVAL can be used in an EQ hash-table for source code lookup.
<supercode>
yitzi: thanks for the link. any further pointer about where in the project I should look to find out the expression-to-source-location association?
<supercode>
and more importantly how during EVAL time, the source location can be looked up again?
<supercode>
I know there could be multiple ways to solve this. a short discussion on any one way would help me to wrap my head around this
<mrcom>
alcor: I just use company ("company-complete-common" is what's bound to tab). Sly completion is indeed a bit wonky--you have to select the selection window and can then scroll up and down with arrows.
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<younder>
Company is a bit twitchy in my experience. I'd go for Corfu and cape which is more configurable.
<younder>
More work to set up, but you will benefit in the long run.
<younder>
Particularly on the REPL
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<younder>
Just did a major revision of my Emacs config last week. After experiencing many of the problems mccom mentioned.
<younder>
There is a whole host of modes.. vertico, marginalia, orderless, embark (mini-buffer) and also emacs, consult, corfu, cape and wgrep.
<ixelp>
The *Completions* Buffer Gets a Big Upgrade in Emacs 29 · robbmann
<alcor>
SLIME does not seem to have issues with the default CAP provider but SLY indeed seems to suffer from jank. I remember this was probably the issue that drove me back to SLIME some years ago.
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<younder>
THe Sly on ELPA is pretty out of date. Most use ELPA, or I use Straigt and the GIT REPO.
<younder>
s/use ELPA/use MELPA/
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<younder>
Lot of old guy's remembering Zappa on #emacs wish Edi was there.
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<younder>
For the record you need to be damn near fanatic Zappa fan to remember Huchentoot and Drakma.
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<attila_lendvai>
quidnunc, did you resolve your hu.dwim.util #t issue? if not, then there were some changes to ASDF that gutted our customizations. i've reported it, explained the situation, but i'm not sure what's the current state...
<attila_lendvai>
quidnunc, i think if you have a too new ASDF then that may be the source of the problem.
<younder>
My ASDF issue is that I need to restart Emacs before it sees new libraries I added.
<younder>
Seems to me the function ASDF uses at startup should be available at any old time. Only I don't know that it is. Perhaps you can help me out.
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