#commonlisp on 2022-10-21 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-07-28 16:55 jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/>

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08:25 <thuna`> Is there a better way to write this (The ring generator should stay as is)? I wanted to use CHECK-IT:FAIL inside the lambda but it logs the test in every iteration (which makes sense). https://0x0.st/oxKB.txt

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08:34 <jackdaniel> oi, that was a while since the last time I was compielled to use (compile nil `(lambda …))

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09:16 <pjb> thuna`: you can use ASSERT to check assertions in running code.

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09:28 <thuna`> pjb: But that's not the issue. I am using parachute, so I already have assertions. The problem is that having the assertion inside the CHECK-IT loop runs it multiple times, when I only need it to run (report) once

09:29 <thuna`> An alternative of the code I gave (with the above issue) is https://0x0.st/oxK5.txt

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09:33 <pjb> ok

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15:58 <copec> I do sysadmin/devops work, and I've dealt with Salt, Chef, Puppet, and Ansible. A configuration management system written in CL would probably become its killer app people would reference.

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15:59 <morganw> copec: there is https://spwhitton.name/tech/code/consfigurator/

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16:00 * copec checks out

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19:06 <Josh_2> raylib seems like a fun little way to make smol games

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19:13 <aeth> this is why you rate limit your bots...

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19:17 <Mrtn[m]> Josh_2: What do you mean?

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19:19 <Mrtn[m]> minion: remind Josh_2 RIP in one hour.

19:19 <minion> you speak nonsense

19:20 <Mrtn[m]> Minion: help

19:20 <minion> There are multiple help modules. Try ``/msg minion help kind'', where kind is one of: "lookups", "helping others", "adding terms", "aliasing terms", "forgetting", "memos", "avoiding memos", "nicknames", "goodies", "eliza", "advice", "apropos", "acronyms".

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19:21 <Mrtn[m]> /msg minion help helping others

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19:22 <Mrtn[m]> minion: help helping others

19:22 <minion> I can tell another user about something if you address me like ``minion: show some-user something else''. I respond to a lot of different ways of asking for this, and you can have me show pretty much anything to another user.

19:23 <Mrtn[m]> Josh_2: minion seems to be doing well?

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19:24 <Josh_2> minion is connecting and disconnecting constantly

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20:04 <kagevf> I turned off those notifications ... too distracting Josh_2

20:05 <kagevf> I don't remember how I did it, but the setting is persistent across connections, so set it once and done

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20:22 <Bike> on irssi it would be /ignore #commonlisp JOINS QUITS

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20:26 <zagura> Mrtn[m]: 22:23 -!- minion [~minion@common-lisp.net] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by minion1))]

20:26 <zagura> Same for specbot

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22:14 <aeth> I don't think #commonlisp has ever been this active. It probably has moved up several places on the arbitrary programming language popularity contests

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22:42 <kakuhen> good

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22:43 <drbluefall> Perhaps we're entering another lisp cycle?

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22:46 <aeth> who's writing the Lisp mysticism essays now?

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22:52 <hayley> Are the essays promoting or complaining about mysticism and Lisp? I can do the latter, I think.

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23:01 <tyson2> the rumor is that that the startup slowdown has something to do with it

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23:02 <kakuhen> hayley: Me too! "Most Lisps suck, CL sucks the least" is something I've wanted to expand into an blogpost for a long time now

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23:02 <tyson2> React doesn't look so good if you're not getting paid to do it

23:02 <hayley> Easy, if you want to make more startups just do "while :; do sbcl --eval '(quit)'; done"

23:03 <hayley> @kakuhen I tried that, didn't quite communicate it, but you are likely a better writer than me.

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23:19 <drbluefall> ...I just noticed that the Darcs repository for `cl-cont` is missing.

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23:21 <drbluefall> or, at least, I can't seem to find the original repository.

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23:23 <Nilby> I can argue the side of Lisp Mysticism, in the style of the Pythagoreans, if anyone needs... but if only Lisp was required for a cult, froggey should have a bigger following than Terry Davis

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23:33 <froggey> Nilby: part of me is a little disappointed that I don't :p

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23:37 <Nilby> froggey: Me too. I'm your secret follower, but I'm usually very quiet and un-infamous too.

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23:39 <Nilby> froggey: I still hope of someday having all my software run on Mezzano, and forget about any other OS.

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23:50 <Nilby> i guess somewhat predictably, the cult following thing is about something other than amazing technical achievement. that i imagine hayley has a shrine to Henry Baker, probably shows he was a bit self-promoting with all those papers

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23:52 <hayley> I don't have a shrine, /you/ have a shrine!

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23:53 <Nilby> lol, just my wild imagination again, while dozing off in the church of alonzo

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23:58 <Nilby> thankfully, being good at neithing writing papers or software, absolves me from many burdens

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