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<aussetg> does something like an “offset breakout” cape exist ? The natural mounting / orientation for the ai64 is heat sink up, which makes accessing the gpio difficult
<aussetg> if not… guess i’m learning kicad
<set_> Do it! Capes!
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<rcn-ee> aussetg: think of standoff's... heatsink down is the way we thought would make sense..
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<aussetg> rcn-ee: I guess it works too. I have a fan on the heat sink so it’s a little cumbersome but not a deal breaker
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<Guest66> hi does anyone know where I can find a CAD model or drawings of the beaglebone black?
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<aussetg> rcn-ee: I’m using this one : https://noctua.at/fr/products/fan/nf-a8-5v ( on USB until I build a molex micro adapter )
<aussetg> It works excessively well, brings the board from 65C at _idle_ to 35C, with barely any noise
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<rcn-ee> that would work perfect.. i really need something with legs so the heatsink could be faced down and capes on top. ;)
<aussetg> rcn-ee: It's janky but you can screw standoffs in the fan directly
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<PatrickE> Hi, I still try to get the bootloader from a Yocto custom linux running on the Beagleboard C3 (Yes, the old OMAP based one). Now i received my JTAG debugger and i managed to get it running. But now i have a lot of questions.
<PatrickE> If i try to load the MLO binary into GDB, gdb tolds me that it is not an object file...
<set_> WHelp...I broke down and did it.
<set_> 64 you mothers!
<set_> Mothers like mother goose.
<set_> I am waiting patiently. (As usual). I think I can test a bunch of 64-bit libs now. Should I update you, GenTooMan?
<set_> or...if you are a 90's person, Mother-Love-Bone!
<set_> Sorry. PatrickE, I will refrain now. I know what you are doing is important.
<set_> I did not mean to take away from your example.
<set_> Wolfram, ARMNN, and etc...
<PatrickE> Anyway , it was a bit stupid. Iam just building the ELF files with debug symbols ... And then try again
<set_> Aw.
<set_> Okay. No issue.
<set_> I am not that smart. Well, that and I did not ever use the JTAG headers.
<set_> I should try it one day.
<set_> So, what are the error codes outside of the output being, "not an object file" ?
<PatrickE> Try to not try it.:)  Its annoying if there is no tools team which configures the debugger for your board...
<set_> Aw.
<set_> Okay.
<set_> Have you tried w/ the UART yet?
<set_> There is a header on the top of the board. GND, TX, RX. At least you can start to see u-boot variables and error output.
<PatrickE> set_ so i tried to give gdb an image or something but it wants an ELF file. So with EXTRA_IMAGE_FEATURES += "tools-debug" it builds all the ELF files
<PatrickE> set_ yes, it hangs in SPL ... UART is completely dead at that point
<set_> Oh.
<set_> Hmm. I was right. That seem more complicated than I can handle (knowledge wise). But!
<set_> That is actually farther than I am getting right now. Do you have an older toolchain to handle the Beaglebone (Original)...
<set_> Oh!
<set_> Are you using a BBB or BeagleBone Original?
<PatrickE> Its an 2009 Beagleboard C3 with OMAP 3530
<PatrickE> Ok i think i will call it a day now and tomorrow i will try to build u-boot independent from yocto and then i should see where i stuck
<set_> Okay.
<set_> Dang it.
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<set_> I was just gettin' started. Who knows what we could find...?
<set_> 2009...is it white?
<set_> C3 usually signifies to me that it is a BBB and not the white (original) version.
<set_> Oh.
<set_> It is the large, red one?
<set_> I have very (no), little experience w/ that large, red board.
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<set_> am37x?
<set_> Anyway...
<set_> I cannot tell you how many times I wished the BBAI was the BBAI-64.
<set_> I would, countless times, find myself six days into tutorials on building and then, and would you not know it, they state on the sixth day...this is a 64-bit lib.
<set_> Blah!
<set_> That should be the first page.
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<set_> StarterWare is now the SDK. Blah. No wonder I know little now!
<set_> So, I think I figured it out. The beaglebone in yocto is not the BBB. It is of another beaglebone.
<vagrantc> The third B stands for Black
<set_> Right.
<vagrantc> (although it is an entirely unofficial acronym)
<set_> Oh.
<set_> Oh.
<set_> BBB is not beaglebone black. That could just be me. Dang.
<vagrantc> no, many people use it ... but it is not ... officially used
<set_> Right...I understand now. People may not know what I am describing.
<set_> For instance, me walking through my day and saying, "Did you get a BBB yet" to a person that barely knows me.
<vagrantc> saving a few keystrokes in the short term to maximize the chances of having to use a lot more keystrokes later
<set_> This would entail some type of questioning.
<set_> Right.
<set_> Lazy of me. But! I know now!
<set_> When that fellow earlier said omap 3530, he fooled me.
<set_> I was bewildered. First, b/c I was not around. Secondly, b/c I do not know the origins of omap technology.
* vagrantc bets on meteories
<vagrantc> with a t
<vagrantc> somewhere
<set_> Oh. I am off to research!
<set_> Meteories w/ a t!
<set_> Just kidding. OMAP, I am off to research omap.
<vagrantc> OMAP came along well after life reached land, but i'm not sure if feathers were a thing yet
* vagrantc is in a curious mood :)
<set_> Hey!
<set_> 2002! STM and TI came as cohorts to produce OMAPI!
<set_> You guys!
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<set_> WHen discussing "Catalog Distribution Channels," what does this mean in the context of OMAP ARM processing?
<set_> The article blindly discusses it w/out description.
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<set_> libcdc?
<set_> Or...
<set_> is that a way of producing chips for mfg. that use them in components outside of buying from consumers?
<set_> For instance, there are many things you can get that I am not able to consume b/c I am singular and not an entity (if that makes sense).
<set_> I think that is the idea.
<set_> History is awesome is all I am saying.
<set_> So, I noticed another lib. from the wiki that omap uses for distinction into video and dsp.
<set_> I just understood that person dilemma.
<set_> He must have been reviewing articles w/out support since TI does not support the omap3530.
<set_> It is a difficult task.
<set_> Man...
<set_> I came across libcde and libdce. Either way...this is neat stuff.
<set_> I am scared for my mind!
<set_> anyway...forget my mind. Please tell, PatrickE, that I found a 2013 doc. from TI about the OMAP 3530.
<set_> tirades and omaps!
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