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<Armbian-Discord> <s​repac> That works too but the loop actually results in slightly better pic quality along with the additional benefit I stated above
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<Armbian-Discord> <x​iaoye0> Hi, Guys, Do you have a recommended apt source list, I'm using armbian with armv7l
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> what's wrong with the apt list that comes with arrmbian?
<Armbian-Discord> <x​iaoye0> The latest nodejs is v18, but my source only supports me upgrading to v12, so I should change the source to upgrade to v18, is that right? @joekhoobyar
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> @xiaoye0 - the apt sources for Armbian get most of your packages from upstream (Debian)
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> If you're looking for out-of-tree packages (stuff that's not in Debian, or newer than Debian) - you can generally:
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> - follow on-line guides for installing your packages on Debian
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> - hope that the upstream has armv7l support 🙂
<Armbian-Discord> <x​iaoye0> yes, I got v18 support for armv7 at nodjs and I downloaded the tar binary package and it works, but I wish I could get the deb package to upgrade v18
<Armbian-Discord> <x​iaoye0> @joekhoobyar
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> we all wish things. :-p
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> seriously though, we don't have any way to force some upstream repo to start building debs for you
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> google is your friend
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> I feel your pain though, if Debian is still serving up EOL node 12 - they gotta upgrade that soon
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> it's unacceptable
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> lol debian the ultra stable via ultra-old
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> lol, yeah - but eventually ultra-old becomes EOL-and-no-security-patches
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> so, if they miss the "cut off"...
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I would ask what version of Debian this is though
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> good catch, I never asked
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> are you on bullseye, @xiaoye0 ?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> oof like I did with my ubuntu machine on a non-LTS build
<Armbian-Discord> <x​iaoye0> So I should make a private deb package based on this tar binary, right? @joekhoobyar
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I had to do things to upgrade
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> I doubt you will need to resort to that - if you google around, you can probably find an official deb
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> but, honestly, for me - I love using nvm
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> I never install things like node, ruby, etc., from the os package manager
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> never
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> If I'm building a docker image for a "real world", production thing, sure - diff story
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> but on my machine? eff no
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> ah, I see bullseye is stuck at 12. sheesh
<Armbian-Discord> <x​iaoye0> I on the jammy
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> I have too many customers, too many different apps on too many versions of node
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> I can't live without nvm, rvm, tfswitch (for terraform), etc.
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> So I never feel this pain anymore, @xiaoye0 🙂
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> personal advice, try nvm
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> don't bother building a deb
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> and if nvm doesn't work well on arm, bug them
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> lol
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> I'd be surprised though, if there isn't an "official"-ish PPA for jammy
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I would hope, I see the "universe" has it at 12
<Armbian-Discord> <x​iaoye0> 12 and 18 is too much difference lol
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> jeez, I mean, it's gotta be in a PPA
<Armbian-Discord> <x​iaoye0> @
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> and you really want a deb, look here: https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#debian-and-ubuntu-based-linux-distributions
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Installing Node.js via package manager | Node.js
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> but I prefer nvm
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> last time I messed with nodejs I was playing with WebOS
<Armbian-Discord> <x​iaoye0> What core board are you using? @joekhoobyar
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> Too many
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 😄
<Armbian-Discord> <x​iaoye0> I have h3 h616 rk3399
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> Like, I don't even want to admit it
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> But I have way more microcontrollers than dev boards
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I have a D2000 😄
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> BEHOLD
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> of course I can't find it right now in my unpacked stuff
<ArmbianHelper> ^ The Quark D2000 Development Board: Moving Beyond “Hello World” - Projects
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> nope
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Phytium D2000 Eight-Core Arm CPU Appears in Mini PC | Tom's Hardware
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> oh, much better
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> haha I have a mountain of microcontrollers too
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I build dev boards as a hobby
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> wow, the D2000 looks sweet
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> > The recommended OS is Ubuntu Kylin, the official Chinese version of Ubuntu
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> LOL, no thanks ^^
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Cricket One | Cyber City Circuits
<Armbian-Discord> <x​iaoye0> Thank you very much
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> He talks more about the d2000 than using it.
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> It is lost 😐
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I'll find it, troll man 😄
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> snap! The chirping starts. You guys should join a hockey team
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Cricket CH559 from Single Board Solutions LLC on Tindie
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> that one is fun
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> it's a chinese 8051 MCU with 2 USB 2 hosts
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> nice. 8051... that's not intel, what is it?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> that is intel
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> but oooold intel
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> I thought maybe, but figured my memory was flawed
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> basically up until the cortex M0 became popular a lot of chip makers used 8051 as the ultra small cheap(free) supervisor core
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> in this case it goes 54 MHz and has USB
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I must defend my honor from @NicoD
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/jpeg] (667.3KiB)
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> lol
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> The noisy bois mentioned in the weekly chat. This thing is almost as loud as my Ryzen 7 machine 😆
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/jpeg] (884.0KiB)
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> heh
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Lane stuck another sodimm in his, I should
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> but I'd probably go for a matched set
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> which board is it?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> it was a limited production run (I guess) I got from the DragonBox store
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> So it's got a Phytium D2000 processor, a Radeon RX550, NVMe, and 16 GB RAM
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> Looks like they are still selling these too
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> well cool
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> its bootloader does EFI stuff, so I booted the same image on it and on a La Frite 😄
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> simply because it was a hilarious contrast
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> lol, it is funny
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> side note: Samsung monitors are trash when it comes to their compatability
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> it's probably true now, I haven't bought one in 15 years, but we actually still have that one and it still works. at the time, it was a top-of-line HDMI monitor
<Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> we actually got a class action suit notice about it (price fixing) but had no receipts, this was maybe 2 years ago?
<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Glad you found it. Fan's look weird. I'd replace that quickly and put it to use.
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> my samsung will not play nice with anything that isn't running windows
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Lane had issues with his 4K screen, also samsung
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<jock> Hello all
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> jock hey
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<jock> Hey Igor!
<jock> I've been contacted by NicoD in the past days about the multimedia things for the opi800; drop that project but right now I decided to get up to date on the current state of affairs with ffmpeg/mpv and hardware decoding on the rockchip side
<jock> It turns out that with latest bits it is possible to have hardware accelerated video decoding within X11/wayland, both in windowed and fullscreen modes
<jock> I'm looking into what works and what not to make a summary of the status, but it is pretty nice seeing things are getting squared out in that front :)
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<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> jock: sorry, have some family stuff. be back 10-15
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> jock: wow! wonderful news
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> it was about time that this starts to work 😉
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<Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> I liked to read that. @jock Let me know when I can test things. @IgorPec Any preferences on what board to use? I've got NanoPi M4, Station P1, PineBook Pro and OP800. I'd make a preview video showing what is in the pipeline. Or should I wait til it's integrated?
<Armbian-Discord> <s​repac> Some of the loop capture I bought for $10
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> In other news the Phytium is working nicely other than that Ethernet adapter, I'm working on writing the image to the NVMe
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> We need an EFI install utility 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> armbian-install should cover
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I didn't know of this one
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> functionality was added
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> but its not well tested
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> and until then, nand-sata-install is there
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> which doesn't have that
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Right
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> try to boot from usb or something and see if you can install as expected to nvme
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Already running it 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Now to find those guys and see if they've updated the firmware with some PWM fans and DVFS...
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> It's a loud hot little monster
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> aha, full rotation for fans?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> All on all the time
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Of course the thing runs really hot
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> this is default for real server hardware 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> So without fixing the frequency scaling I think it's probably useless to improve the fan control
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> And lol
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> so no dvfs at all?
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I don't think so since it is just that hot
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> But I'll do more digging once I have it running on "not-a-thumb-drive"
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Worked as intended
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Good install
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> great!
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> So dmidecode -t processor | grep "Speed" is reporting 2.3 GHz current, 2.6 GHz max. It never changes 😆
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<archetech> my 10 yr old I5-3570s is 3x as fast as D2000 ;)
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> of course it is, lol
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> ARM isn't for work unless you have a server rack and a bottomless wallet
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> waiting for the pitchforks
<archetech> have to agree
<archetech> buying a sbc still has to make $ sense was my point
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<Armbian-Discord> <m​ulti_io> is it possible to run the build on an a Mac M1 in Virtualbox on an Arm Linux VM?
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<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> while in the middle of a weedle beetle puddle paddle battle?
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> why not? If you have a supported Linux VM...
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<archetech> builder is deb based
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> @multi_io I personally run Parallels on a Mac M1 myself
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I've used UTM as well
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Not a fan of VirtualBox or Vmware at the moment
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> (I have some historical issues with VMware when I was a VMware admin)
<Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> and Oracle to me (since I was a DBA) will always be a RDBMS hehe
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