03:44 <Armbian-Discord> <c​oder1337> of course it is, but i like they don't have intel management engine and other bloat like this (at least i don't know of it). after some tweaking, i could run three docker containers, my ide and web application. all that on a luks encrypted root partition. so yes, it's slower than most x86 cpus, but still usable for most normal tasks if you don't mind having a somewhat lower performance. $200 is the price of a middle

03:44 <Armbian-Discord> class smartphone - and those don't have 16gb ram. so i think the pricing is appropriate.

05:28 <Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> You guys are making second guess buying 5 rock 5(s)

05:28 <Armbian-Discord> <j​oekhoobyar> Still, I feel confident we will get the issues worked out.

05:29 <k_fox> @coder1337 *makes psychic paws* missed the first half but i bet you're talking about daily driving raspis or some other SBC

05:30 <k_fox> to wit: i discovered a raspi 4 drives two 4k displays just fucking dandy if you're not a 3d gamer a few years ago

05:31 <k_fox> been collecting all the 8 core android tv boxes people have been throwing at value village and they've been selling for $10

05:31 <k_fox> i have like 20 now

05:31 <k_fox> what do i need qubes for i can run a single application on each one XD

06:09 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> The price compared to a mid-grade cellphone, if you remove the price of the screen and battery, is still pretty bad, IMHO Rockchip is gouging for that SoC, otherwise we should be seeing more affordable devices. The Rock5B is downright affordable compared to a Khadas Edge2 with no real I/O, or the firefly ROC-RK3588S-PC <-- lol at Firefly continuing to use Libre Computers naming scheme, but getting it wrong.

06:09 <Armbian-Discord> Amazing.

06:13 <archetech> w/o the 50 discount I wouldnt have bought mine 8GB model

06:34 <archetech> N3 is taking too long

15:00 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> @Igor. What time is the meeting? I can't remember if it was 16pm or 19pm. Can't find it back on the thread.

15:04 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> don't know, heaven't hear it from @TheBug yet.

15:05 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yesterday i was to tired due to travel. how many people showed up?

15:06 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> About 6 or 7.

15:06 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> great! well see how many people shows up, otherwise we can set this for mid week as well

15:06 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i am busy later in the evening

15:06 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Ok for me.

15:07 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> Just let me know when.

15:07 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> sure

15:16 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> @IgorPec I hear you on travel.. I didn't get home until 1AM.. about to leave again.. won't be again until at least that again tonight

15:18 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> Cheers all. time to run across state again.. be back tomorrow

15:19 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> I also tested the Station P1 yesterday with all available images from downloadpage and from balbes. All the 5.18/.19 and 6.xx didn't have hw acc video playback. But the playback was a lot better than the OPi800. I'm surprised by that. P1 can do 1080p youtube playback. Not perfect, some screen tearing. But it doesn't reload constantly and it plays. While OPi800 can't do 1080p YT with either chromium or firefox. It

15:19 <Armbian-Discord> constantly reloads and isn't watchable. I can't understand why there is a difference here. Both are not hw acc video playback. Both RK3399, both balbes images. But still a huge difference. Also tried the old legacy buster image and installed media-buster-legacy-RK3399. This isn't functional anymore. Chromium is broken. But it still can play 4K h264 video files. Something even Manjaro can't do(1440p max) Legacy isn't useful

15:19 <Armbian-Discord> anymore.

15:21 <stipa> do they work at the same clock?

15:21 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> same cpu clock.

15:24 <stipa> the Station P1 could have some kind of throttling

15:24 <stipa> but, it definitely has better cooling if the cpu is in contact with the chasis

15:24 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> What do you mean? It's in a metal case, never overheats. So no throttling.

15:25 <stipa> if there's a governor for the CPU try to put on both boards on max frequency/performance

15:26 <stipa> all the time

15:26 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> both have ondemand. But I can try performance.

15:28 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> don't know but those things has to be sorted out ... legacy for 3399 is not needed the moment video accl is alright. i though we have this sorted out as media support is in for awhile, but useland player needs to be compiled with support AFAIK

15:30 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> I hope it can be fixed. It is this that made me stop using the RK3399 daily. Odroid N2+ then does it better with cpu only. But I've got to admit I'm using Manjaro every night because it plays so smooth. For good desktop experience this is a must.

15:31 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> @stipa I tried with performance governor op OPI800 and it's just the same. Takes very long to load, and doesn't play. Always loading...

15:32 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> did you try kinetic builds perhaps?

15:32 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> those have latest userland packages

15:32 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> No haven't seen any. I'm unable to build from balbes branche.

15:32 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> ah.. those branch mess has to be sorted out 1st

15:33 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> without is already difficult enough to debug

15:33 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> https://forum.armbian.com/topic/24035-orangepi-800-rk3399/?do=findComment&comment=152571

15:33 <ArmbianHelper> ^ OrangePI-800 (rk3399) - Beginners - Armbian Community Forums

15:34 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> https://github.com/armbian/build/issues/4360#issuecomment-1302478530

15:34 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Problem building `XFCE` desktop environment for `BananaPi M2 Zero` · Issue #4360 · armbian/build · GitHub

15:35 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> I'll try with another desktop then.

15:38 <Armbian-Discord> <N​icoD> building kinetic cinnamon. Not sure if it's the buster or the xfce that failed.

15:53 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> it could be that this package crc detection doesn't work properly. the package in questions seems to be failed and its not armbian fault

16:15 <Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> wow librecad is nice

16:19 <Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> I habe spent the day putting my t4 backonline

16:19 <Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> and I like some of what was done with cinnamon but I think more in the future

16:19 <Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> who ever is doing desktops now

18:08 <Armbian-Discord> <m​arcone> why does https://github.com/armbian/build/releases have images for the Radxa Zero 2, which isn't actually available for sale, but not for the Radxa Zero?

18:08 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Releases · armbian/build · GitHub

19:37 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> I cant access the armbian website. is it down or is it trouble on my end?

19:42 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> hmm?

19:42 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> page doesn't load at all?

19:42 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> nope

19:42 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> im not seeing any issues loading it..

19:43 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> tried in firefox too. no load

19:43 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> and the error is?

19:43 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> no error. its just waiting forever for the page to load and not going anywhere

19:44 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> you sure you are not using a proxy or something that is having issue?

19:44 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> nope. let me try on my cell phone

19:45 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> interesting, it loads off my cell phone but not my wifi

19:45 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> yeah its loading here just fine so I am nore sure

19:45 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> but other sites are fine and I'm not getting anything flagged on my firewall

19:45 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heBug> wondering if DNS issue or something?

19:45 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> and I accessed it the other day on my mac

19:45 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> let me reboot my firewall and see what happens

19:49 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> safari says the pages address isnt valid. wtf

19:55 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> disabled unbound....still nothing, this is bizarre

19:55 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> anyone good with diagnosing this kind of thing?

20:08 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> its the firewal

20:15 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> could someone throw me the torrent file for the le potato CLI armbian image?

20:31 <Herc> you could try https://fi.mirror.armbian.de/dl/lepotato/archive/

20:31 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Index of /dl/lepotato/archive/

20:54 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> that seems to work! thanks

21:39 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> I cant get past uboot on my le potato

21:40 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> x4 : 0000000000000000 x5 : 23ce9f9e734c5585 x6 : 000000007bf54e10 x7 : 0000000000000000 x8 : 0000000000000007 x9 : 0000000000000000 x10: 0000000000006884 x11: 000000007bf40e2c x12: 0000000000006828 x13: 000000007bf40de8 x14: 000000007a998000 x15: 0000000000000020 x16: 000000007bf3bf43 x17: 0000000000000000 x18: 000000007bf4cdb0 x19: 000000007af41040 x20: 000000007df4fb20 x21: 000000007dfbc140 x22:

21:40 <Armbian-Discord> 0000000000001000 x23: 000000007bf54d60 x24: 000000007dfdac00 x25: 0000000001000000 x26: 0000000001000000 x27: 0000000001000000 x28: 0000000000001000 x29: 000000007bf40de0 Code: eb02009f 54000061 52800000 14000006 (386468a3) Resetting CPU ... resetting ... bl31 reboot reason: 0xd bl31 reboot reason: 0x0

21:41 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> "Synchronous Abort" handler, esr 0x96000004

21:41 <Armbian-Discord> <r​an the commiebot> tried on samsung evo and evo select cards. same problem

23:09 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Waiting on a rebuild of the images

23:09 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> It's an issue with an untested uograde

23:54 <Armbian-Discord> <R​ichN> Remember Remember the 5th of November