08:05 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> hi! i made an sd with one of the amlogic s905 images from here https://github.com/armbian/community

08:05 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> thing is im not sure how to use it. is there an accesory doc for each image about how to install it?

08:05 <ArmbianHelper> ^ GitHub - armbian/community: Community rolling release

08:06 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> "Armbian project maintainers does not answer any support questions regarding those builds!"

08:06 <archetech> what?! plug card and powerup

08:06 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> those are automated build - we don't know if they work or not.

08:07 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> https://docs.armbian.com/User-Guide_Getting-Started/

08:07 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Getting Started - Armbian Documentation

08:07 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> ah i think i found what i was looking for https://forum.armbian.com/topic/17106-installation-instructions-for-tv-boxes-with-amlogic-cpus

08:07 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Installation Instructions for TV Boxes with Amlogic CPUs - FAQ - Armbian Community Forums

08:07 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yes, that would be better

08:08 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> tvbox support forum

08:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> hm ill read a bit more since that guide seems to be outdated. im missing this /boot folder

08:17 <schwar3kat> Hello all - I noticed an issue with a couple of the edge Linux Kernel 6.07 builds. When the file system is resized on first boot, there is a CRC error and the file system is mounted read only. Is this a known issue? I assume that it affects many more boards. Work around is reboot and the set up continues.

08:21 <schwar3kat> LKML seems to know about this so there is possibly a fix coming. https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/27/1515

08:21 <ArmbianHelper> ^ LKML: "Theodore Ts'o": Re: ext4 online resize -> EXT4-fs error (device loop0) in ext4_update_backup_sb:174: Filesystem failed CRC

08:24 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> nvm the uboot files are on the root now it seems

08:40 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> well it seems it works? at least i see the armbian logo and the loading circle thingy

08:40 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> afaik if it fails i need to try with other dtb files until one works

08:45 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> nvm, kernel panic

08:46 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> try here https://forum.armbian.com/forum/97-unmaintained-csceoltvb-other/ tvboxes are wild west

08:46 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Unmaintained (CSC/EOL/TVB) / Other - Armbian Community Forums

08:48 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> schwar3kat don't know about that issue

08:49 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> i can imagine but with the massive drought of RPIs, they're very tempting. i got this tvbox basically with the same specs as a rpi3, for like... <20 USD. at a time where i literally cant get a RPi3 at all, and the competitor boards are 5 times the price.

08:49 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> biggest cost is support

08:50 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> i mean the thing has a rooted android so it isnt completely useless, but i'd prefer a cli env with debian

08:51 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> what prevents you?

08:51 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> what do you mean? prevents me from what?

08:51 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> having cli environemnt with debian

08:52 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> on the tvbox? i dont know if i can install debian on it

08:52 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> that's why im trying with armbian

08:52 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> support is not provided for what you want

08:53 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> https://forum.armbian.com/topic/16976-status-of-armbian-on-tv-boxes-please-read-first/

08:53 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Status of Armbian on TV Boxes - Please Read First - FAQ - Armbian Community Forums

08:55 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> that post is from a year ago. the one made on monday says community support is beginning to be tested.

08:55 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> where did you read you are getting support?

08:56 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> https://forum.armbian.com/topic/24296-community-support-for-amlogic-tv-boxes/

08:56 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Community Support for Amlogic TV Boxes - Amlogic CPU Boxes - Armbian Community Forums

08:57 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> its community thing

08:57 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> support not provided by armbian staff

08:58 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> ... i didnt ask for support by the armbian staff

08:58 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> not sure what's your point

08:58 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> this channel does not deal with tv boxes whatsoever

08:58 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> never did, never will

08:59 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i am trying to point you to right direction

08:59 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> now for 3rd times https://forum.armbian.com/forum/24-tv-boxes/

08:59 <ArmbianHelper> ^ TV boxes - Armbian Community Forums

08:59 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> there you can find people that understands what you are asking

09:00 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> i didnt ask anything. i already solved what i needed.

09:00 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> i asked about install instructions and i found them right after

09:00 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> that was it

09:01 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> support is serving lazines most of the time

09:01 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> ... what?

09:01 <Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i can easily lost 10 hours every day for helping people using google

09:01 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> and you didnt lose anything on me because i found my answer right after

09:01 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> i dont understand what was the problem

09:09 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> want me to use the #armbian-amlogic channel exclusively? or is flat out mentioning tvboxes banned from this server?

09:09 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> if it's banned, i dont see it in the rules

11:00 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> It isn't banned per se. However barely anyone here dealing with those devices and therefore asking about such is just waste of time.

11:19 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> i see, thanks

16:21 <Armbian-Discord> <r​pardini> schwar3kat: should be fixed in 6.0.8; 2f8d9b94176d48d733a461e13bb4f6589653ba05

16:50 <KeeperoftheKeys> Hey, I hear a lot about the great work the armbian project does to get Debian on all kinds of SBCs but the one thing no-one talks about when talking about these other SBCs and armbian is kernel support so are all boards that armbian works with fully supported or are there still boards pinned to kernel versions that the vendor released binary blobs for/

17:40 <archetech> some have mainline some dont

19:05 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Many have patches needed

21:21 <KeeperoftheKeys> which devices are currently considered well supported? I see lists of caveats on the armbian website for allwinner, freescale and rockchip

21:31 <CosmicDJ> KeeperoftheKeys: define "well supported"

21:37 <KeeperoftheKeys> support equal to a generic x86 system or rpi, that can have new kernels regardless of what the hardware vendor is doing

23:28 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Ebin is well supported

23:29 <Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> You ask if it is supported and I say, "well..."

23:49 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> i have a hopefully more generic question. what are these DTS files? looking at the kernel repo it seems like they're a bunch of files defining the hardware layout of the soc? https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/arch/arm64/boot/dts/amlogic

23:49 <ArmbianHelper> ^ linux/arch/arm64/boot/dts/amlogic at master · torvalds/linux · GitHub

23:49 <Armbian-Discord> <T​heChubu> does this means that these definitions must match the device otherwise the kernel will fail to start? kinda interesting, i assume there are no mechanisms to detect the hardware present in the device, thus these pre defined files