12:04 <obinou> @tjedrewj I have this board and i have the same question as you. also i'd like to work on the network fast path unit

12:05 <obinou> @thedrewjs

12:05 <obinou>

12:07 <obinou> I also want to work on the i2s buses for the sfp in a gpon context since i plan to use it as a router + nas

13:17 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> as with anything unknown in Linux. you should go look at the github for the kernel and see if the MT7986 appears in the sources

13:17 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> and possibly check patchwork as well to see if anything is pending

18:24 <obinou> @Tonymac32 The MT7986 has started to appear in the main kernel tree, I think up to the point where boot is possible from mainline. The question is for all the peripherals. For exemple the banana pi R3 have 3 types of mass storage (eMMC, sd and NOR) , as well as a specific organisation of the SFP that are not yet mainstream but are on patchwork and under heavy evolution.

18:25 <obinou> (especially there have a "strange" WED driver to accelerate the communication between wifi & fixed ethernet through PCI)

18:26 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> mass storage isn't probably an issue, it's someone elses IP anyway

18:26 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> WED driver, well, that might be tough luck forever, I don't know

18:26 <obinou> the NAP (network acceleration processor) is not yet published - only appears in the datassheet but no other doc

18:26 <obinou> however there IS a NAP for an older processor from MT

18:26 <obinou> which is opensource AND already upstreamed

18:26 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> so honestly it's in a better place than RK3588 will be for the next year, you're saying

18:26 <obinou> chances are there are similar enought

18:27 <obinou> if we had some doc , yes

18:27 <obinou> however

18:27 <obinou> it's very network oriented

18:27 <obinou> mediatek play the opensource game and try its best to upstream

18:28 <obinou> the issue is that their best is not very quick nor very qualitative at first, so it takes a lot of time to have something upstreamed

18:28 <obinou> at least they try

18:29 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> yeah, that still sounds better than the 4 years it took to get RK3399 usable

18:29 <obinou> and just for that, I tend to choose them , rather than broadcom for exemple

18:29 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> agreed

18:30 <obinou> (I don't know rockchip at all, never had to work with them. I touched allwinner and amlogic , not a great souvenir either)

18:31 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> they do next to nothing, allwinner does exactly nothing, and amlogic seems to have people willing to pay others to do something 🙂

18:31 <obinou> ;-)

18:48 <archetech> https://forum.radxa.com/t/any-progress-with-mainline-linux-kernel/10923/10 mainline dev kernel

18:48 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Any progress with mainline linux kernel? - ROCK 5 Series - Radxa Forum

18:58 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> I'll test that out out some tonight/tomorrow

19:47 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> lol and? crap is crap, whether it has NVMe or not.

19:47 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 😄

19:47 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> How's it going?>

19:48 <archetech> ha good u

19:49 <archetech> he has super cow powers

19:50 <archetech> is it beer o'clock yet

19:54 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> should be

19:54 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> is somewhere

19:55 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> So, looking at this neggles repo, 2 things strike me: #1, someone is getting paid, and #2, someone has no idea how to name commits and keep a clean history

19:56 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> looks interesting, but it's a damned tangly mess

19:56 <archetech> pine devs whatd ya expect

19:57 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-rockchip/list/?series=&submitter=&state=&q=RK3588&archive=&delegate=

19:57 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Rockchip SoC list - Patchwork

19:58 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> nice to know there's no attempt to make this "not another rapidly aging vendor repo"

19:59 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> at least it's based on Linux as of today and not whatever the hell that Rockchip abomination is 😄

19:59 <archetech> true

19:59 <archetech> hate bsp's never use em

19:59 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> this is definitely becoming one, but it's newer

20:00 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> If this gets cleaned up and sent to the mailing list it will be good

20:01 <archetech> least somebody is making an effort

20:01 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> a lot of this looks like what I expected looking through the documentation, most of the hardware is RK3399,3568, etc

20:01 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> so it just needs a tweak, a compatible, etc

20:02 <archetech> clone it improve it make armbian the 3588 go to distro ;)

20:02 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I did that on the Tinker Board

20:03 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> had my fun, was a waste of time in the end anyway

20:03 <archetech> cuz it was old tech when ya did it

20:03 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> nah, I had one before it was even released, it wiped the floor with everything but the XU4

20:04 <archetech> ill be focusing on g610 gpu for desktops as usual

20:05 <archetech> icecreamman has made progress there

20:09 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Yeah

20:09 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Now

20:09 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> if these boards were $100

20:11 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h3/ + $65 in RAM

20:11 <ArmbianHelper> ^ ODROID-H3 – ODROID

20:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1038184177125838938/unknown.png

20:13 <ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/png] (12.3KiB)

20:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1038184177469751377/unknown.png

20:13 <ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/png] (8.5KiB)

20:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> not that it's super valid

20:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> but even with error/incompatiblities

20:13 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> not the same league

20:14 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Actually, the sbc-bench should have some decent comparisons

20:16 <archetech> h3+ nice too pricy

20:17 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Rock5B is the same price but with RAM, no linux support and comparatively weak performance

20:17 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I like it, but we have to admit this is toy purchases, not a competitive proiduct

20:18 <archetech> exactly

20:18 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I have no idea how the makers of > $100 SBC's stay in business

20:18 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> when using ARM

20:21 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> well here's something interesting

20:21 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1038186167696367666/unknown.png

20:21 <ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/png] (9.3KiB)

20:21 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> according to SBC-bench anyway,

20:22 <archetech> rock5 ~30% faster

20:22 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> at a severly lower clock

20:23 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> so this is... questionable

20:23 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> but hopefully we get more data points

20:23 <archetech> 2350 is close to 2400 which is the max

20:23 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> yeah and 550 MHz behind the Celery

20:24 <archetech> but theres more to tweaking than cpu clock

20:25 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> right, and for multi-core I'm not surprised, the Celery is only a single thread quad core

20:26 <archetech> my main concern is devs dont find silicon issues that make release rev boards junk

20:26 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> yeah, well, that's the early adopter gamble

20:26 <archetech> v1.42 is what I should be getting

20:26 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> similar to the Linux situation

20:28 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> Both Jasper Lake numbers (N4500/N5100) were obtained using passively cooled Mini PC with only one DIMM. With dual channel memory (and better cooling in N5100's case) some scores might be significantly higher.

20:29 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> ah ha

20:29 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> ok, the RAM numbers make sense

20:29 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> running single channel is sadface

20:29 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> 😄