02:24 <lanefu> I used to have fail2ban rules for the redirect logs that would block consant xenial pollers... there was some massive deployment of xenial that seems like stuff would do apt update every few minutes on some client

02:25 <lanefu> the OG armbian mirror was pushingn like a TB or 2 a day of just freaking apt indexes from them it was crazy

02:26 <archetech> fu man chu hey

02:33 <lanefu> hey arch

04:10 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> yo

04:17 <archetech> lanefu tony and arch triple threat

04:19 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> sips old fashioned

04:19 <archetech> throw a new sbc at us we'll have a desktop runnin in no time

04:19 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> haha

05:17 <archetech> turkey lurky day!

05:49 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> indeed

05:49 <Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I have the thing soaking in a brine at the moment

05:57 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> How is armbian on the orange pi zero? I am thinking about buying one since the bundle is very cheap and its a small board

05:57 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> I do like small boards

05:59 <archetech> lol we like small computers what can we say

06:18 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> @Jason123 If you mean the old OPi0 with H2+ SoC then it works great. WiFi is very unstable but that is the chip's fault. XR819 is crap. You can get an Orange Pi One for pretty much the same price w/o crap WiFi but HDMI and barrel plug connector for powering. Bit bigger board size though

06:18 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> If you do not need WiFi, go ahead for the Zero.

12:09 <CosmicDJ> there's no rock-5b.dts here https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip?h=v6.1-rc6, how were you able to use mainline for the Rock5b? https://forum.armbian.com/topic/24625-mainline-kernel/

14:06 <lanefu> CosmicDJ: remember friends don't let friends power rock 5b with Usb-pd

14:06 <lanefu> https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/dfrobot/FIT0783/14322661

14:07 <lanefu> Igor is glueing together the handful of mainline patches for the board. Armbian mainline for most SBCs is aggregated proposed mainline patches and applying them to mainline.

14:09 <lanefu> As far as the device tree. Given those patches only enable like the SoC and gpio (no Ethernet, pcie,.etc). Probably wasn't too bad to make it extend a device tree. Can't speak for what he used and made tho. Just speculating 🤠

14:21 <CosmicDJ> lanefu: what's wrong with Rock5b and USB-PD power?

14:33 <lanefu> TLDR; Kernel driver is fundamentally flawed and supply voltage negotiation can do the wrong thing with many supplies.... Some work fine... But it will always be fiddly.

14:33 <lanefu> https://github.com/ThomasKaiser/Knowledge/blob/master/articles/Quick_Preview_of_ROCK_5B.md#powering

14:34 <lanefu> If you goto the Radxa debug party thread on radxa's site you can see plenty of conversation

14:42 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> @<lanefu> you have a M1 right?

14:42 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> (Mac)

14:51 <Armbian-Discord> <T​enkawa> If not lanefu whoever has one.. anyone tried out the finally production new Vmware Fusion version? It finally is starting to give Parallels some real performance competition I think finally

15:10 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> The main thing is that I do need wifi. Though the orange pi zero might be small enough to put by my router for ethernet. The orange pi one is a similar price yeah though its bigger and I would prefer if it has wifi. Though it still might be small enough to put by my router. I have put a pi 4 by my router just fine.

15:10 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> Though if I was to plug it into a monitor I would need wifi. What is the advantage of having barrel plug?

15:25 <lanefu> Haven't tried VMware on m1. Just rancher desktop and UTM

15:25 <lanefu> Utm

15:26 <lanefu> Ahhhh UTM.app

15:27 <lanefu> Barrel plug is for using a standard dumb 12v power supply instead of fucking with USB-PD power negotiation magic, which is unreliable on many rockchip implementations.

15:28 <lanefu> Some smart companies put a seperate microcontroller on the board to manage the fusb302 usb-pd chip rather than let Linux attempt to manage it

15:45 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> If you want reliable WiFi the OPi0 is a no-go. Probably any board will do better than XR819.

15:45 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> Barrel plug are designed for power transport while MicroUSB is designed for data. Powering boards with such - while often it works fine - is generally bad idea because the voltage drops across connection points and poor cable can add up and can lead to all sorts of weird behaviour. Therefore proper powering is absolutely mandatory to exclude all sorts of possible fault sources.

15:46 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> https://forum.armbian.com/topic/4767-powering-through-micro-usb/

15:46 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> https://forum.armbian.com/topic/8361-usb-c-powered-boards-important-information

19:24 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> Hmm so the wifi works but its not reliable.

19:24 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> As for the power there is a kit that comes with a power supply that should be fine. I know the raspberry pi zero and zero 2 and even the radxa zero is fine powered by the usb. The barrel night not be much better. Anyway the orange pi zero has no hdmi so I guess etherent I could use