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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> some boards simply come with them built in
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> if you aren't just using your SBC for a hobby gadget, yes, it's a good thing to have
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> barrel jack to Type-C acquired, time to abuse standards as badly as our vendors
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<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> do you guys know if the RK3399 based orange pi 4 LTS has any kind of gpu support on armbian or official linux images?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> it has exactly the same amount of support as any other RK3399 hw. 3D support exists, VPU is experimental
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> ok, thanks for the answer
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> i just noticed that they were two variations of the pi 4 lts, one with an RK3399 soc and a cheaper one with an RK3399-T SOC
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> the only difference seems to be a lower clock speed for the -T variant, are both supported by armbian under the same image? https://www.armbian.com/orange-pi-4-lts/
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Orange Pi 4 LTS – Armbian
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I would think so
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> both are supported in any case
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> nice, that'll make things easier to setup
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> i've also found out about the two 14mp camera connectors, which apparently are on their own bus so they don't suck up usb or pcie bandwith, that's neat, especially for a project that needs quite a few cameras like mine
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> but i guess if i use armbian with that one i loose support for that ¯_(ツ)_/¯
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> it's not that big of a deal since i'd rather have an up-to-date kernel than suppport for one very specific type of MIPI camera...
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> hmm... no mention of the PCIE in the -T variant
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> that's concerning since opi doesn't tell anything about the t variant not having a working pcie 🤔
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/png] (124.7KiB)
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> that part of the datasheet is legit missing
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> missing here too
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/png] (8.7KiB)
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> yet another part showing a potentially missing pcie
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/png] (21.7KiB)
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> there is a steep difference in cpu core clock, especially for the A53 cores and the gpu one as well, they did hint into that but they stated it was 1.8ghz vs 1.5ghz, which is misleading
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/png] (58.1KiB)
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> that's about it for both datasheets
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> guess i'll be getting the more expensive non t variant, that t variant is weak
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> and has hidden issues
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i have pi 4 LTS in my hands and its normal RK3399
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> 3gb version?
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> the 3gb ram version has the RK3399-t
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> and the 4gb version has the RK3399
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> no, this one is 4G
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> yup
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> well, get normal one
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> yep, that's what i intend to do now
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> the 15€ difference isn't worth a removed pcie and poor cpu clocks
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> the weird thing is that they kept the pcie connector
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> board price only matters when buying in bulk
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> on the board that doesn't have a pcie bus
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> that is if you are a company X')
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> i'm just a hobbyist
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> but still you are willing to add lets say 20 euros for not wasting a day or a week
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> tru
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> debugging that pcie would've taken some wasted time
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yep, a lot more
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> and this is time taken from family / other things, if you are hobbist
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i burned one board today 😦
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> ouch
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> which model?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> best rk3399 board
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> ergh, loosing a board is always such a drag
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> khadas edge with 128Gb emc
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> damn
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> that's one of the good ones
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> can it be repaired?
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> or did you fry something like the soc
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> no, i flashed SPI with wrong image
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> but then
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> oh its bricked?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> not completly
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> you need to close some locations on pcb
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> but its so tiny and i might damage it
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> microsoldering can suck for repairs, especially on tiny traces
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> i guess there aren't any exposed pads on these boards...
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> there are, but are super tiny and my vision is not very well anymore
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> don't you use a microscope for this?
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> i never touch such a packed pcb without my microscope
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> edges are really packed
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/png] (577.3KiB)
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> but yeah with these SMD packages, getting the thin wire where you need is going to be pain
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/jpeg] (6.5MiB)
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> this is the actual problem
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> nasty, is it an attempted repair?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yes 🙂
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> that is indeed going to be an issue
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> with boards that small i'd have used a chemical mask etchant
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> rather than trying to scrape it
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> damn anyway
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> yup, that sucks
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> and few weeks ago my laptop got similar disease
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> bricked beyond repair. again super tiny pcb
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> what brand?
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> dell
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> dell is a pretty big oem, they could repair it for you, if it still has its warranty
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> or you could get your hands on a spare board, but that's more difficult
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> that is the problem. warranty was out, few months after
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> my asus latop had its bms fried 3 times
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> it's a hardware flaw
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> power management chip was wired wrong
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> they swapped the mobo out 3 times without fixing the issue
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> i changed ONE resistor on the board, fixed
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> here i don't know what exactly it was, emergency boot loader to flash bios didn't worked
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> they're... nbot very competent
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> that kind of thing sucks
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> may even be planned obscolescence
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> its really, just f**
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> you enver know
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> haha, i hope we are not there yet
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> sadly we pretty much are 😔
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> random 1st stage boot loader auto-kill 😉
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> if > 2y
<Armbian-Discord> <K​anken> or power on counter that blows an internal fuse after X amount of uses X')
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> yes, ofc, i can imagine
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> so this month hw does not like me
<stipa> i've lost two ethernet ports
<stipa> with debian update
<stipa> on x86
<stipa> USB3
<stipa> ASIX AX88179
<stipa> they stay connected and everything but the traffic stops after some short period of time, reboot helps to get everything going but the thing repeats
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<philarmbian89> anyone run hassio on armbian
<philarmbian89> wondering if it's a good experience for zwave control