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<johnjaye> ah meant to ask here. why is armbian bad on the n2? someone said this on another channel
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<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> ok
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> is there any sbc that I would be worth it to sell and replace my pi 4 with? If I can get some money for my pi 4 now that prices are high
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> Or should I just keep my pi 4
<nekomancer[m]> johnjaye: armbian good on N2
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<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Get the money, get an odroid n2
<johnjaye> well i'm also interested in non-rpi boards. that's why i bought the odroid to start with
<johnjaye> pine64 is good too although i'm not sure how the rock64 differs exactly
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<lanefu> Johnjaye as a server. Armbian on n2 very good. As a desktop Armbian on n2 bad
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<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> armbian desktop is as bad as other desktops. its amlogic 😉
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<Armbian-Discord> <H​eisath> Good morning @IgorPec . Always happy to receive new issues first thing after getting up 😄
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> haha
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> if you have time, otherwise i'll check it during my morning.
<Armbian-Discord> <H​eisath> Already found the culprit, the PWM patch is breaking - it is easy fix working on it rn
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> ok
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<Armbian-Discord> <H​eisath> Fixed in https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/3847
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> will try to rebuild asap
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<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> You should sell it and keep your bucks for rock5B or rock5A or similar ones
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> Since you have other sbcs to play with
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> Or sell it and get a rpi400, those are cheaper and better haha abd you will earn some extra bucks for free
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> the pine64 model b should be able to do anything a pine does, half the price and twice the speed
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> What pine64 one?
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> For his usage, I would wait for next gen hw
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> He doesnt want industrial usage
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<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> sorry, wrong name: https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/01/buy-quartz64-model-b-sbc-4gb-ram/
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<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> Wait how is a rpi400 better?
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> Better heat dissipation out of the box, and cheaper than rpi4...
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> does rpi400 come with power supply?
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> That's a great sbc, but it doesnt have the I/O of rk3568 and neither the CPU power of rpi4. It's very efficient, no active cooling solution required whatsoever and consumes very little
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> I dont think so unless you order it as combo.
<[TheBug]> No it does not
<[TheBug]> er
<[TheBug]> wait
<[TheBug]> if you order it in kit it does I think
<[TheBug]> but if you ordered it external to a kit I would assume no
<[TheBug]> the kit I bought for my nephew had one
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> Hmm is it really worth it to get rpi400 and sell my pi4?
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> I have the pi 4 8gb
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> If you sell it for 150-200 bucks and you get rpi400 at close msrp
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> Then... absolutely
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> I eould try to sell ot at 200
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> Or 199 😂
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> ok
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> well how much with casr
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> Send me a pick of your setup
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> isn't more powerful than rpi4? oh. Hmm, okay.
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> hmm why?
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> Absolutely, you are talking about 4xa55 cores at 1.8 ghz, rpi4 is 4xa72 at 1.8 ghz
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> To know what case/heatsink etc combo are you planning to offer
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> The canakit case
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> Okay then, I dont know, ask 200 bucks and we will see
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> Selling it at 200 bucks it's an excellent deal
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> Whatever you do with that money after all
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> this is what I have
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> I can sell it without power supply for 200?
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> Yes
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> And if nobody pick it.. doesnt matter then. You keep your pi4 then
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> But if someone does. Then it's a great deal
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> then I use power supply for pi 400
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> if I get one
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Yeah, I'm getting rockchips confused.
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> the 3399 is faster than the 3566, right?
<Armbian-Discord> <M​icroLinux (Salva)> Yes, but less power efficient
<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> I like power efficient
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<Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> nice a new armbian release
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