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<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> yeah I can build the imgs I need but as it is now the installer is the big issue
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> as I can not install on my t4 nvme unit
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> the installer fails
<Armbian-Discord>
<RichN> I need to get the t4 back and runnign
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Esteemed Immortal Doctor Tien> is there a list of which arm boards are fully 100% open source and no proprietary firmware?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Esteemed Immortal Doctor Tien> is it the majority or the minority?
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<MicroLinux (Salva)> Minority, you can run some rk3399s blobless afaik
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> if we rule out blob for onboard wireless, most rockchip / allwinner based.
<Armbian-Discord>
<lanefu> @Tonymac32 le potato and la frite?
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Right. So Rockchip devices (RK3288,3328,3399) can run blobless bootloaders. Not all boards take kindly to that though, so check what the vendor/we are doing if it's a concern
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> All Amlogic has special blobs for ram init/etc
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> Allwinner generally has blobs for the supervisory core as well (openrisc something or other)
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> Does uboot count?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> U-boot is open source, what do you mean?
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> For U-boot to work on Amlogic you have to glue a blob into the final burnable image that does the initialization then passes control to u-boot
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> I think a more important question is "does bootrom count". And I say no, because it cannot be changed.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> any tricks to booting the 1GB Radxa Zero? using the same µSD card that works in my 4GB Zero, it's not getting on the network.
<[TheBug]>
hmm
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> I ran the boot-g12.py radxa-zero-erase-emmc.bin script even though these supposedly have no eMMC, and it ran successfully with no errors
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> buuut still not seeing it show up on wifi yet
<[TheBug]>
well my first inkling is to ask you an obvious question, so don't throw things at me
<[TheBug]>
but do you have usb ttl adapter hooked up?
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> no, by all means!
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> no, I have one around here somewhere but I have absolutely no idea where.
<[TheBug]>
best way to troubleshoot this will be to have a ttl adapter so you can see serial console
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> I was thinking maybe I could use UART from one of the working SBCs instead.
<[TheBug]>
well I imagine what you would see
<[TheBug]>
if hooked to the 1GB version
<[TheBug]>
is some error in Uboot
<[TheBug]>
maybe it has different memeory settings in the dtb for the different amounts
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> so I tried booting a fresh Armbian image and here's the weird part. if that were the case, right, then… it wouldn't delete the armbian_first_boot.txt file, would it?
<[TheBug]>
you would at least be able to see why it fails to post
<[TheBug]>
hmm
<[TheBug]>
I assume you are trying to use HDMI output
<[TheBug]>
it may be called in a different place
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<[TheBug]>
so it could actually boot but fail to show on video also
<clee>
I'm not trying to use HDMI at all, actually
<[TheBug]>
oh
<clee>
I should probably drag a cable over and hook that up
<[TheBug]>
#plugandpray ;0
<[TheBug]>
yes I know it is annoying
<[TheBug]>
and I cuss everytime I have to get mine
<[TheBug]>
but TTL cable is always best bet
<[TheBug]>
will save you scratching you head for hours
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> I built a pi-zero shaped microcontroller board that can act as a UART Hat 😆
<Armbian-Discord>
<Tonymac32> It's actually what I used to debug my zero back when I got it.
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