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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> anyone with radxa zero around? do we need to add some instructions to the download pages? is there some hackery needed to get it up and install armbian on ? https://www.armbian.com/radxa-zero/
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> we need to give people some time. i am sure half of them, me included, didn't internalize those rules
<Armbian-Discord>
<Werner> Sure. Also need to develop some proper way for reporting for next round
<Armbian-Discord>
<Werner> Interesting. Discord supports s/ replacement and does instantly. Was expecting the bot to answer lol
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<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> yes, if the Zero has eMMC, it needs to be erased because otherwise the bootloader will default to trying to boot from eMMC and just infinite-fail-loop forever
<ArmbianHelper>
^ Misfit SBC guide for Vorons · GitHub
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> I wrote up some notes
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> top! you can add them to the download pages
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> do I have permission to edit the Radxa Zero page?
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> only had RockPi4 and Rock64 when I last looked
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> aha, true. maintainer for zero didn't show up ... moment
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> done. also we have enabled 2FA here since there are many hack attempts
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> good, I have 2FA enabled everywhere I can
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> armbian also provides it
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> for ssh access. just need to enable it
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> and enabled
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<Armbian-Discord>
<bret> I can try and dig mine out of the packing box later and check
<Armbian-Discord>
<bret> I do recall not being able to just burn to SD and boot when I first got it though. Had to jump through some hoops, connect it to my PC and wipe/burn to the eMMC
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> but i am talking with baylibre guys to help us setup Lava test system
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> and images runs from sd card
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> but we went also to develop support hardware, aka SD card simulator since we want to test images that are thrown out from the build system
<ArmbianHelper>
^ GitHub - armbian/mpads: Multiple power and data switch
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<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> 🤯
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> yeah, crazy stuff 😉 sadly we didn't manage to get it into production. we made 3 proto
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> then another idea which is probably more realistic is to join our labs networks
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> that sounds like something I can do
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<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> something has already been done, but i am not the right guy for details @lanefu
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> he is doing this vpn-o-magic
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> I hope it's tailscale. or at least wireguard.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> its wg
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> i still use ovpn for my needs, but will probably need to migrate
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> I managed to make openvpn work for me when I needed to, but keeping track of all the keys and scripts to manage it the one or two times a year I needed to change things was always a hassle.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> don't tell me. i just decided to do some maintanace on router and f* things up 😉 nas is getting timeouts, vpn clients doesn't see gatway 😉 lol
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> this is what i'll do this week
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> you have experiences with Mikrotik?
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> all my home gear is Unifi
<Armbian-Discord>
<clee> but I tricked the Unifi router into running wireguard anyway
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> i think mikrotik could support wg now, need to check
<ArmbianHelper>
^ fix nfs boot image creation for #2930 by iav · Pull Request #3444 · armbian/build · GitHub
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> we have some support but unmaintained
<Armbian-Discord>
<Zaza> I dont have one zero, just the pi zero 2
<Armbian-Discord>
<Zaza> Which arrived recently, didnt tried armbian in it. Im doing roc3a tests
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<Armbian-Discord>
<c0rnelius> I couldn't get that one method to work for me in Linux on the Radxa Zero. I had to use fastboot and just flashed the mainline u-boot.bin to the eMMC. After that the sdcard comes up.
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> that should cover basic 1st start questions
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> yeah it should
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> the build tool is failing at linux-uboot-radxa-zero-current
<Armbian-Discord>
<IgorPec> working for me, checked right now
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> weird
<nekomancer[m]>
`Linux helios64 5.18.0-rockchip64 #trunk SMP PREEMPT Sun May 29 20:19:27 EEST 2022 aarch64 GNU/Linux`
<nekomancer[m]>
no `/dev/fan*` devices → no fan management, fan not work.
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> ok i just reinstalled ubuntu and it worked
<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> i can reinstall because i am using a vm
<johnjaye>
what's a good board to start with being new to armbian? nanopi? orangepi? banana-mana-pi?
<nekomancer[m]>
not enough mana
<johnjaye>
i'd buy a strawberry-pi but i don't think they make those
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<Armbian-Discord>
<Jason123> johnjaye do you want small size?
<johnjaye>
well i don't really know what i want. i figured all those boards would be small
<johnjaye>
like. smaller than an nvidia shield
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<johnjaye>
hmm. i didn't realize the list of unsupported boards was so large
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<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> What are you trying to do?
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Just have an ARM board? Learn about the arm instruction set? Have a cheap cluster?
<johnjaye>
i want to learn how to build and use something other than the rpi
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> Good support? Get an espressobin. (I'm the espressobin maintainer, and its support is not what I did but what I inherited)
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<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> "build and use" - meaning install the OS?
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<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> I think the RK3399 systems are well supported and decently strong.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> My own prejudice is against amlogic and allwinner, though I really can't justify either.
<johnjaye>
what's the distinction between amlogic vs rockchip?
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> They are different companies. "What's the distinction between intel and amd"
<johnjaye>
the distinction is they are rival companies
<johnjaye>
i kinda heard good things about odroid.
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> odroid is a board manufacturer who uses SoCs from the various companies. They've got several amlogic and several rockchips
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> hi! was vs code removed from armbian?
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> even samsung
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> yeah, some old exynos5 in the XU4
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> well, allwinner is easy...
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> how good was the pci interface on the old opi3??
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> hahahah
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> allwinner was the first one I knew of, back with the A10.
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> if we have to rank them all, alwinner is always the last one
<johnjaye>
all these crazy accessories on ameridroid... micro server, led matrix shield, servo motor
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> I wonder what happened with this roadmap
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> hopefully they will make those soc chips as fuck bc they are not going nowhere if not
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> but based on what happened, they are not going to make those neither, probably they are going to make a different thing
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> if cheap enough, a good octacore, even based on a73, would be fine