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<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> yeah, cnx-soft says rk3588 is "Manufacturing process – 8nm LP"
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> What's that mean in comparison?
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> yes,
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> well it sohuld be better in theory! hahah
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<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> raspberry pi 5 will probably use 22nm, thats my guess
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> on a similar node that rk3566, that would be a great improvement
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> but when talking aobut rk3588, we are talking aobut a compelte different league
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> not only bc of the cores and the gpu... it has a lot more I/O , so, more transistors
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> all the amlogic chips I testedd so far are very dumb on the I/O department
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> so, I am not that impressed with the temps and power consumption compared to RK3566 222nm node, which shoudl be cheaper and performance nicely.
<johnjaye>
hmm ok i think i have everything i would need on an odroid n2. case, power adapter, sd card
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> the real thing to compare should be... how much transistor density has a node, and how much transistors use this soc or the another one, then we could stablish some comparisons against each other
<Armbian-Discord>
<ManoftheSea> n2+
<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> yes, the sd card reader on the n2 works fine, it reach very decent speeds, no need of emmc
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<Armbian-Discord>
<MicroLinux (Salva)> but if you can get the n2+ the better haha
<johnjaye>
hrm. i can't tell does it allow microsd usb power or do i need the dc 12V/2A adapter?
<ArmbianHelper>
^ Odroid N2: Issues with recent firmware and emmc modules - Odroid N2/N2+ - Armbian Community Forums
<srth56hj>
I think you tried it out with a micro-SD card. I in my case use a 16GiB eMMC module and that does not seem to work reliably with armbian 22.05.
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<srth56hj>
I think its u-boot+eMMC related issue. The u-boot have been updated on all armbian images in the last half year and this seems to have added the eMMC boot issue. I would get in contact with the u-boot developers
<amazingfate>
srth56hj: I have uboot NVME issue same as you several days ago on my rock 3a board. I solve it by making a boot partition with vfat filesystem. The legacy rockchip u-boot has bad support for ext4 filesystem so I have the same error msg `Failed to mount ext2 filesystem...`
<srth56hj>
I did not had this issue on armbian with images from about half a year ago. amazingfate, did you had those issue with u-boot 2022.1 ?
<amazingfate>
srth56hj: I have this issue on a rockchip legacy u-boot v2017. I've tried to backport the ext4 driver from mainline u-boot to it several days ago but still got this issue.
<juri_>
lanefu: /win 23
<juri_>
er. :)
<lanefu>
Lol
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<srth56hj>
IgorPec: Could you bump the version here? config/sources/families/include/meson64_common.inc ?
<srth56hj>
to use more modern u-boot version. The recent u-boot 2022.01 have eMMC issues
<ArmbianHelper>
^ move u-boot rockchip64 to 2022.04 by 150balbes · Pull Request #3719 · armbian/build · GitHub
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<juri_>
lanefu: some structured person on irc asked me to get a message to you: josh from dataideas is prout. i have no idea what any of that means. :)
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<amazingfate>
srth56hj: for rk35xx, there is only rockchip legacy u-boot. Mainline u-boot only supports rk32xx and rk33xx.
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<[TheBug]>
hmm just realized jock hasn't been around for a while... hope hes still doin okay
<[TheBug]>
juri_: what proof did they have of that
<[TheBug]>
juri_: I know what that means and I hope it isn't true
<juri_>
[TheBug]: no idea!
<juri_>
random IRC message.
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<[TheBug]>
I have my doubts thats true
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<[TheBug]>
but the reason that seems relevant is the guy Josh Prout is a pretty prolific con man in Dallas over the years who would give unsustainable deals for colo and they steal customers equipment and such
<[TheBug]>
but I thought that guy was still in jail
<[TheBug]>
who knows
<[TheBug]>
juri_: ^
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<juri_>
I've got friends and enemies in jail. crime doesn't pay, folks.
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<johnjaye>
will the default n2 build work for an odroid n2+?
<johnjaye>
i suppose there's no way to test it until i actually get it though
<archetech>
is there a reason you want armbian vs other distros I prefer manjaro/odroid images
<johnjaye>
images from who? odroid themselves?
<archetech>
yes
<johnjaye>
idk i googled for free software alternatives to raspi, found armbian, picked odroid and bought one
<archetech>
n2 is for desktop or nas
<johnjaye>
ok
<archetech>
which are you shooting for
<johnjaye>
i don't know what you mean by nas.
<johnjaye>
like a literal nas?
<archetech>
server
<johnjaye>
desktop i guess. i just wanted something to tinker with armbian a bit on
<johnjaye>
i've used raspi a bit but the closed-source firmware is a little discouraging
<johnjaye>
so i wanted to learn about arm stuff outside of raspi
<johnjaye>
(plus you can't even get them hardly anymore!)
<archetech>
armbian is just debian ubu with some custom stuff
<johnjaye>
would that mean i can download a debian armhf image and put it on most boards around?
<archetech>
most boards? this is arm every sbc is diff
<johnjaye>
ok. i had the impression armbian was a project involving supporting free software on arm boards
<johnjaye>
so it would be better than just downloading a debian iamge
<johnjaye>
*image
<archetech>
ya need to do some reading on what arm is
<archetech>
ya got alot of assumptions
<johnjaye>
ok. maybe you can help me then. what's your definition of what armbian is and why would i want to use it
<archetech>
and your lazy
<johnjaye>
ok
<archetech>
why havent you installed armbian on an sdcard yet vs babbling around in this irc get it done
<archetech>
then ya can use it and read the docs
<archetech>
thats how ya learn arm
<johnjaye>
i don't have the sdcard yet. i just ordered it. and i'm building armbian in virtualbox